PP700W pistol

[darryl]

Been a while since I visited here. I see the PP700w is on the scene here. So, a link to a review: http://www.airgunsarp.com/2016/01/28...ch-pcp-pistol/

Here in the States it seems to take a while for the boat to arrive then for product to clear customs. the U.S vendor had them on pre-order sale for $319.00 USD shipped. The gun looks like a copy of the Kalibrgun Ocelot, which runs $9995.00 USD. I figured I'd treat myself to one as a birthday gift. Package tracking says it will be here on Wednesday. The review of the features, and especial the tuning ability of the gun is what made me decide to take a chance on this brand. Here it's called the Airmax Precision PCP. Have to love the marketing angle of the name. Now i"m off to find a decent pistol scope.
darryl

[Aimstraight]

Yikes, over 12 ft.lb out the box for the US version! Interesting link though re. adjustment of the transfer port to tune it down.

[darryl]

Yikes, over 12 ft.lb out the box for the US version! Interesting link though re. adjustment of the transfer port to tune it down.

I can see myself adjusting not only the transfer port but also the regulator, not to mention the obligatory hammer spring tension adjustment. The Brocock Grand Prix I had gave me 22 sweet spot shots with the 18 grain JSP pellet (with no tweaking), and one-hole accuracy at 30 yards. That is my benchmark and I hope to increase the shot count to maybe 30 good shots at 12 fpe. I wonder if I can adjust the gun to be as efficient with 16 grain pellets? It ought to be fun to find oot.
darryl

[forbs]

sorry if this thread is old but I bought 2 of these yesterday.

I am very impressed with them. superb build quality, good shot count and accurate out of the box..

the gun smith that i bought them from is already modding them with hw barrels and threading them to use with a hw mod which makes them almost silent

there is also talk of putting a stock on it and making it 12ftlb legal rifle.

all in all I'm impressed if anyone has modded these and wish to share ideas give me a pm

Dave

[forbs]

also if anyone has any ideas to make the standard shroud a but quieter let me know

[darryl]

owners are reporting good out-of the-box accuracy here too. Also the build quality is very good. My sample is no exception. I do find that at it's lightest setting, the trigger is good. Not great, but good. The pistol is a bit loud. Odd, how some airguns makers design shrouds/moderators as an afterthought with just enough efficiency to muffle the "crack". I suppose there are a lot of factors that go into the decision-making process. Obviously I wish it were more quiet, but I wish that for every gun I own. Don't want to rile the neighbors.

Anyway, the gun is a very good buy for it's features at it's price point. Well done!
Darryl

[forbs]

owners are reporting good out-of the-box accuracy here too. Also the build quality is very good. My sample is no exception. I do find that at it's lightest setting, the trigger is good. Not great, but good. The pistol is a bit loud. Odd, how some airguns makers design shrouds/moderators as an afterthought with just enough efficiency to muffle the "crack". I suppose there are a lot of factors that go into the decision-making process. Obviously I wish it were more quiet, but I wish that for every gun I own. Don't want to rile the neighbors.

Anyway, the gun is a very good buy for it's features at it's price point. Well done!
Darryl

how much is it over there mate?

I paid less for 2 but a typical price is £165-£200..

I have been chatting to another owner that claims wrapping the inner tube with craft felt makes it quieter. and another has added a male thread to the end of the shroud to add a moderator.


what optics are you using ?

many thanks, David

[darryl]

Hi Dave,
the dealer here had an introductory pre-order sale (buy before the gun arrived here) of $320,00 shipped, or 220 GBP. Once the product wrrived the price was said to go up to $399.00 per copy (about 275.00GBP) In the special offer two could be bought for $619.00 USD or 426 GBP and change. Both prices included shipping costs. Not a bad deal. Current;y I have a WInchester 2-7x32 rifle scope on my sample, set at 4x. I'm trying to locate a Tasco Pro Class 4x30 with AO; said to focus down to 5 yards. That would be great for me since I tune my airguns in the basement, plus I get to plink in inclement weather. For me the best of both worlds, scope-wise would be a pistol scope that was ar least 2-7x32 with AO adjusting down to less than 10 yards. I keep looking, but the Tasco has a very good reputation, though it's out of production. I've found some on , and the prices show they retain public interest, and value. I've bid on one, and am waiting. My plan-B is to accept using a rifle scope and buy another Winchester. The scope is very clear at 7x and I consider it a sleeper among quality inexpensive scopes. I think I'd have to practice a lot to get an appropriately stable shooting position. I've tended to convert my air pistols to carbines. In fact I took the Winchester scope off such a carbine.
Darryl
PS anyone got a tutorial on how to adjust the regulator?

[lensman57]

owners are reporting good out-of the-box accuracy here too. Also the build quality is very good. My sample is no exception. I do find that at it's lightest setting, the trigger is good. Not great, but good. The pistol is a bit loud. Odd, how some airguns makers design shrouds/moderators as an afterthought with just enough efficiency to muffle the "crack". I suppose there are a lot of factors that go into the decision-making process. Obviously I wish it were more quiet, but I wish that for every gun I own. Don't want to rile the neighbors.

Anyway, the gun is a very good buy for it's features at it's price point. Well done!
Darryl

FYI, making a properly functioning silencing shroud is quite an expensive undertaking. I doubt very much if we are gonna get it with budget guns. Most of the newer ones are also made of polymer to make it cheap and simplify the manufacturing process.

A.G

[jameswrx]

I would always recommend people buy .22 pistols.

It may go against what you've read or been told to buy. I think the biggest influence being target shooting requirements.

I say .22 based on my experience of owning multiples of both caliber. I have had 4 X .177 pistols and 2 X .22 pistols. The only ones I've had and not sold are the .22 pistols. I even have an FAS 6004 in .177.

Why do I prefer .22? Well, due to the power constraints you're not going to be shooting over long distances so you don't have to worry about pellet drop like a rifle. But the main benefit of a .22 is pellet stability at short ranges.

I shoot indoors at 6m and every .177 gun I have does not give a perfectly crisp pellet hole every time through the card.

The .22 pellets just seem so much more stable and punch a perfect hole in the card every time. There must be something in the .22 being better at close range, really don't think I'm imaging it as I've shot a lot of pistols and many hundreds of rounds. The .22 pistols just seem more accurate and perfectly punch the card