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    What are the alternatives to lead for pellets? Presumably there is another metal that can be used, but are there cost implications on swapping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luke View Post
    What are the alternatives to lead for pellets? Presumably there is another metal that can be used, but are there cost implications on swapping?
    Realistically, nothing is as effective or cheap. Shotgunners use steel (no way) or bismuth (brittle)
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    Quote Originally Posted by luke View Post
    What are the alternatives to lead for pellets? Presumably there is another metal that can be used, but are there cost implications on swapping?
    One important point that does not get mentioned is that lead is one of the best self lubricating metals. The alloy of barrels are designed with this in mind. It is possible to come up with another alloy for pellets/ bullets but the metallurgy of the barrels have to be changed to cope with the new metal. Lead is also extremely heavy so a small calibre round can carry a lot of energy. From what I have seen of these new lead free pellets it appears that they are very much on the lighter side by as much as 20% for the same size of the calibre.

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    Signed ... note the GTA (Gun Trade Assoc) haven't been mentioned much. Given its their livelyhoods...

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    Signed. But it's not just the lead thing though, it's everything else that's being plotted to have taken away from us. Eventually a line is going to have to be drawn in the sand.

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    The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “Keep all lead ammunition.”.

    Government responded:

    The Government is considering the independent Lead Ammunition Group’s report and will respond as soon as possible. See: http://www.food.gov.uk/science/advic...ot-with-lead.”

    Lead shot has been prohibited for wildfowling since 1999 by the Environmental Protection (Restriction on Use of Lead Shot) (England) Regulations 1999. Those regulations introduced a double restriction: firstly, lead shot cannot be used, on any game, in certain areas – namely over the foreshore or over a list of named Sites of Special Scientific Interest; secondly, lead shot cannot be used anywhere for shooting certain species – namely ducks, geese, swans, coots and moorhens. These restrictions reflect the resolution made that year through the African Eurasian Waterbird Agreement, to which the UK is a party.

    To examine the continued use of lead ammunition in other forms of shooting, the then Government established the independent Lead Ammunition Group in 2010 with these
    aims:
    • To advise Defra/FSA on what the significant risks to wildlife from the use of lead ammunition are and what levels of risk these pose in the short, medium and long term. Also any perceived risks which the evidence indicates are not significant.
    • To advise Defra/FSA on possible options for managing the risk to human health from increased exposure to lead resulting from the use of lead ammunition, notably in terms of food safety (including game shot with lead ammunition and spent lead shot deposited on agricultural land).
    • To advise Defra/FSA of any significant knowledge gaps that may hinder the identification or assessment of risks, the development of technical solutions or the development of government policy.
    • To advise Defra/FSA on any communication issues, and possible solutions, concerning the relaying of balanced information on issues surrounding the use of lead ammunition to the media, general public and stakeholders.
    • To advise DEFRA/FSA of any significant impacts of possible advice or solutions on shooting activity and associated recreational, wildlife management, economic and employment impacts.

    The Lead Ammunition Group reported in 2015, though by the time it did so five of its ten members had resigned, with four of those subsequently submitting a different set of recommendations.

    The Government is considering its report.

    Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

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    The Committee is made up of 11 MPs, from political parties in government and in opposition. It is entirely independent of the Government. Find out more about the Committee: https://petition.parliament.uk/help#petitions-committee

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    The way I understand it is that the government is highly unlikely to ban the shooting sports as this would cause them a huge problem so far as pest control/health/hygene is concerned not to mention the financial burden of having to undertake the task themselves, as for the ban on toxic ammunition I'd be less concerned about the government and more concerned about the do-gooders for as far as I can see this is a back door into achieving their goals !...

    Ps; petition signed...

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