'New ASG 715 6" revolvers...'

[wilkinss77]

Noticed an ad for these, 'available December', in silver (bb) or grey steel (.177 pellet) versions, on the back page of an airgun magazine.
Apparently styled a la .357 Magnum of 'Dirty Harry' fame.
This, & the .177 pellet Webley Service are on my xmas present list.

Bru

It is in fact a true replica of the Dan Wesson 715 police revolver, rather than the Smith & Wesson .44 that Dirty Harry used. The current ASG 'Dan Wesson', isn't even modelled on the DW, but is actually based on an S&W revolver. The new one is an accurate DW replica.

[Benelli B76]

gingernut on here has a couple. Very impressive build quality, nothing like the old Dan Wesson CO2 offerings. As you say they actually look like the real version with the front cylinder latch instead of the incorrect rear push type on the previous ones.

Baz

[gingernut]

Christmas present to self.
I have put a thread on UBC about them.
Also have aching right arm due to weight of them!

[Jehoolio]

Christmas present to self.
I have put a thread on UBC about them.
Also have aching right arm due to weight of them!

Gingernut,
you weren't impressed with accuracy of pellet pistol. I am interested in one.
Did you try rested accuracy from sandbag?
Try single action trigger?
Any idea of fps?
Build quality looks spot on!

Ta
J

[blooregard]

I've just picked one of these up today, it's very nice.

I went into the shop for one of the Sigs, realised how clattery and toy like they are and went for the 715 instead. Not had chance to do much testing today but the build quality and finish is very good indeed, it will also happily chamber and shoot with older DW cartridges. I'll be interested to see which perform better out of the new and old ones. and will try and get some testing done over the next couple of days.

[gingernut]

Jehoolio
My testing was done at 6 yards standing single action.
One handed as it didn't seem to like both hands.
The double action is too heavy for accuracy.
Gecos preferred pellet.

Not too bad but the problem is that the gun is so heavy you are just starting to get good when you have to stop!
My wrist ached for a couple of days after.

It won't hole a food can either. Big dent tho.

More work to be done by me I think but the Peacemaker out shoots it.

Certainly built well and looks great so don't be put off if you are a big strong lad!

[Jehoolio]

Thanks for info gingernut, it's on my radar but just bought the Sig p226.so Will be a few months off!
J

[laverdabru]

It is in fact a true replica of the Dan Wesson 715 police revolver, rather than the Smith & Wesson .44 that Dirty Harry used. The current ASG 'Dan Wesson', isn't even modelled on the DW, but is actually based on an S&W revolver. The new one is an accurate DW replica.

Thanks for the info, and for all the other info re S&W/DW revolvers supplied.

Bru

[gingernut]

Just to say that the pellet model has impressed me at the range.
Hits tin cans at 20yards which I didn't expect.
I like this big gun but its double action is pants and you need to be a real man to handle it.

[Jehoolio]

Its now on my to buy list along with KWC/Swiss/Rem 1911 BB & a Luger Blowback.

[spaspecker]

I was in the queue at my local RFD for one, until a member at my club turned up with one last sunday and the trigger group completely collapsed on the 17th shot. Not an isolated incident either, over on the UBC 2 members have also had catastrophic failures, one the same as mentioned and another where the valve pin snapped on the 12th shot - pictures of the failure HERE - scroll to bottom of page

there was also a test done by a shooter over on pyramyd, but he had to stop mid-test as the gun "failed" but doesn't say why

no axe to grind, just a heads-up as it's an expensive pistol

[gingernut]

I think the daft safety could break the trigger mechanism if you forgot it was on or it got pushed on by accident and you tried to fire it.
Marc's dealer had one returned where this was suspected.
The broken valve one was in Finland so a bit cold for alloy!

I have both models and they seem pretty tough.

[mrto]

Having seen this youtube vid of the pellet firing 715 version and its pathetic fps figures I will not be getting one,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DKNBfcWUPI

[Geezer]

Threads like this reinforce my belief that however nice many of these things made as airguns by airsoft manfacturers appear, they are not to be trusted. I just hear too many problems.

I guess the business model is you make them really cheap, sell in bulk, and factor in the warranty claims when they break.

Even the traditional Umarex replicas (5/686, CP88, 99, 225, 1911, 92...) have similar problems of questionable design and Zamak construction, although they are marketed as high-end, German quality, full metal etc products. In their slight defence, at least you or your friendly local gun doctor can get spare parts, unlike a lot of the others. My friendly local gun doctor has had to fix a few of mine.

My first CO2 multi-shot replicas ages ago were a Crosman 357 and a Daisy 693 (S&W 59 9mm pistol copy). They were very cheap, mostly plastic, did not have blowback, did not load or function in a realistic manner, and had moulded fake controls. And had horrid triggers, and really poor (Daisy) or average (Cros) sights. If you held them, you could not mistake them for the real deal. But they did not break.

I'm afraid that if a newbie asked me what to buy in this area, I'd tell him/her to buy (a) a really cheap non-blowback BB thing like the Crosman C11 or Umarex TDP, or (b) a Makarov. Or forget it and buy a "proper" traditional air pistol.