What to put on variation form?

[tacfoley]

If you plan to use substitutes, why are you describing it as a BLACKPOWDER gun ....it is a Muzzle loading gun.

It's because most F&ELD refer to muzzle-loading firearms as black powder firearms - whether or not you use BP or a sub. When they were invented there was ONLY BP, so the descriptive name has stuck.

tac

[Turnup]

It's because most F&ELD refer to muzzle-loading firearms as black powder firearms - whether or not you use BP or a sub. When they were invented there was ONLY BP, so the descriptive name has stuck.

tac

That is exactly my experience too. Since 1997 I have had Blackpowder guns of various descriptions on my FAC. At the last renewal my FEO pointed out that this was incorrect and they should correctly be described as Muzzle loaders, and made the appropriate changes. This to comply both with the descriptions in firearms law AND (where applicable) to conform to the wording on the HO approval for shooting clubs. He is quite correct. Note also that it is also entirely possible to hold blackpowder guns which are NOT muzzle loaders (cartridge guns proofed only for BP loads).

[Renegade Master]

Thanks again for all the advice guys. Sorry if I got the terminology wrong, I am very new to blackpowder/muzzle loading guns.

Variation has now gone off and deposit paid on a 1858 replica, so hopefully I should be shooting soon.

[tacfoley]

Thanks again for all the advice guys. Sorry if I got the terminology wrong, I am very new to blackpowder/muzzle loading guns.

Variation has now gone off and deposit paid on a 1858 replica, so hopefully I should be shooting soon.

Now all you need is EVERYTHING that goes along with it.

tac, BP shooter since 1974.

[Renegade Master]

Your not wrong. I've started compiling a list.

Out of interest, any idea if 25 grains of 777 will fit in a 1.75ml phial?? I'm not sure what size to buy.

[urx]

And now for a completely differnt wrinkle you can get muzzle stuffers that use modern propellants and shotgun primers to avoid all that faff with cleaning corrosive junk out of your gun

[tim56]

And now for a completely differnt wrinkle you can get muzzle stuffers that use modern propellants and shotgun primers to avoid all that faff with cleaning corrosive junk out of your gun

Yep, Got a Uberti Anvil in 5" flavour. Cant hit a dam thing with it but at least there on the card now. Er, mostly.

[tacfoley]

And now for a completely differnt wrinkle you can get muzzle stuffers that use modern propellants and shotgun primers to avoid all that faff with cleaning corrosive junk out of your gun

Sir, you are obviously not reading my posts.

If by modern propellants you mean the BP subsitutes, Pyrodex, Triple 7 and Clean-shot, you will know from reading my posts that they are mostly a good deal more corrosive than BP. I have been shooting Pyrodex since 1979, and can tell you that left alone, it will happily much holes in a stainless steel barrel. They are simply more corrosive in a different way than BP.

tac