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    Junk shops finds

    While waitng for the Mrs today I had a wander around a local junk shop, i bought this:

    http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...psqgifjsmt.jpg

    Ok, so its not a BP gun, but it is helluva cool!

    However, they also had this:

    http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...psuiimnq20.jpg

    http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...pspv9pkcjz.jpg

    The butt is broken and loose, but the mechanism appears to be complete and moving and the front edge of the hammer has wear from use. The seller would accept 80, which seems steep to me!

    Then he brought out this:

    http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps9y3os1lj.jpg

    An Adams revolver, very rare and very valuable apparently? I'm not so sure?

    Lastly, I found this lovely little boxed pair:

    http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...pslnqrckce.jpg

    Ok, so they're cap guns, but they work, have half the original "bullets", and one still has the ram rod. Trouble is, as they use black powder to fire a projectile I think they may technically be section 1!!

    Any thoughts on any of the above?
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    i got an adams but is a relic etc but i like that one
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    The boxed Adams is a sought after item for collectors of English Revolvers. Adams collaborated with a number of firearms makers of the time, including Beaumont and Deane. Worth in the low thousands depending on condition, and if the accessories are contemporaneous. What was he asking for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnup View Post
    The boxed Adams is a sought after item for collectors of English Revolvers. Adams collaborated with a number of firearms makers of the time, including Beaumont and Deane. Worth in the low thousands depending on condition, and if the accessories are contemporaneous. What was he asking for it?

    He thought it was worth 2.5-3k at auction, But I thought he sounded a bit hopeful. There are bullets in one of the comparments, but whether they're the rght ones/period is another matter. I cocked and checked the action, the cylinder didn't lock up tight, felt kinda slack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinbum View Post
    He thought it was worth 2.5-3k at auction, But I thought he sounded a bit hopeful. There are bullets in one of the comparments, but whether they're the rght ones/period is another matter. I cocked and checked the action, the cylinder didn't lock up tight, felt kinda slack.
    Strangely, collectors are not bothered about the condition of the internals, even the bore. Lockup on BP guns of the day is usually slack - but can be improved if you want to shoot it competitively. Collectors will cringe at this - they are only interested in the external appearance and originality. Shooters are the exact opposite and a skanky looking original with nice bore will fetch more than a "clean" one with pitted bore. Beats me.

    The condition looks pretty fair and untouched to me - 3k is a bit hopeful, but it might be a rare model (I don't know enough to tell the difference). I think that Adams favoured a bullet which had a sprue at the base, where a felt wad could be attached - might have been someone else tho'.

    One day I will find a boxed pair of minty Manton flinters in a car boot sale for 250.
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    it must be a late model Adams as the original ones were double action only and had no hammer spur.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumo...Adams_revolver
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinbum View Post

    http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...pslnqrckce.jpg

    Ok, so they're cap guns, but they work, have half the original "bullets", and one still has the ram rod. Trouble is, as they use black powder to fire a projectile I think they may technically be section 1!!

    Any thoughts on any of the above?
    If I remember correctly, the pirate guns didn't use black powder at all, the projectile was propelled by the blast from a large round cap going through a slot into the barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicesperanto View Post
    If I remember correctly, the pirate guns didn't use black powder at all, the projectile was propelled by the blast from a large round cap going through a slot into the barrel.
    Yep, which is still section one isn't it? I know the "Gambler" spud guns dissapeared from sale and they used the same propellant.

    I'll probably buy them next week if they're still there, it's a nice little set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinbum View Post
    Yep, which is still section one isn't it? I know the "Gambler" spud guns dissapeared from sale and they used the same propellant.

    I'll probably buy them next week if they're still there, it's a nice little set.
    Yes at that price you should.
    They are very common, but not boxed and complete.

    As for section one, I doubt it.
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    shame its so far away I would of had the damaged pistol

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    Nice junk shop, I have some round here but they appear to be full of.....well, junk
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    Hi tinbum, could you make some space in your inbox . Been trying to pm you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kat1 View Post
    Hi tinbum, could you make some space in your inbox . Been trying to pm you.

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    I'm just sooo popular!

    Can anyone tell me anything about the pocket pistol? Is difficult or worthwhile to repair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinbum View Post
    I'm just sooo popular!

    Can anyone tell me anything about the pocket pistol? Is difficult or worthwhile to repair?
    Did it cock and dry fire (carefully)? These pocket pistols have a large spring in the frame at the grip. Quite often they are missing or too weak to function because of their age.

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    Well if anyone is struggling, I have made several springs for pistols, it is quite easy.

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