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    223 53gr V-Max Load Development

    After creating a great load using 22.8gr of Vhit 133 and being slightly disappointed by the velocity of 2,850fps I thought I'd experiment some more with higher charges and keep and eye on pressure signs.

    Max book load for the 53gr V-Max is 23gr and last week I knocked some up in 0.2gr increments from 23gr - 24gr. Best group was at 23.6gr. The group size increased at 23.8gr and started to close up again at 24gr.

    Thinking I might be coming back onto another 'accuracy node' I loaded up some more rounds from 24.2gr - 25gr and tested them out this afternoon at 100 yards.

    Here's the result- all four shot groups: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6toefmsnyg..._0280.JPG?dl=0

    24.4gr and 24.8gr appear to be the best but I can't just decide which load to use. Quite a lot of mirage today so I put the flyers down to me.

    Which load would you choose?

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    Elliot, i am getting 3340fps with a 55grn Sierra Blitzking out of my 223.
    Load is 28 grains of H335 in Lapua brass sparked by a Fed 205M primer
    Rifle is Sako 85 varmint stainless laminated 20" barrel with Hausken Mod.
    http://www.hunt101.com/data/550/medium/P1220693.JPG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treebone View Post
    Elliot, i am getting 3340fps with a 55grn Sierra Blitzking out of my 223.
    Load is 28 grains of H335 in Lapua brass sparked by a Fed 205M primer
    Rifle is Sako 85 varmint stainless laminated 20" barrel with Hausken Mod.
    http://www.hunt101.com/data/550/medium/P1220693.JPG

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    Nice one TB. I've got some 55gr SBK but haven't pushed them too much. Like the 53gr V-Max, I have a feeling they will do well with more powder!

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    This might be of help? I use 40grn v-max in my .223 with 22 grns of ramshot -"Tac " col is 56.5 for my gun these shoot very good if you want something faster I sometimes use barns 36 grn varmint grenade with 22 grns of tac seated to 57mm these shoot very flat like a laser

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAKDINGEL View Post
    This might be of help? I use 40grn v-max in my .223 with 22 grns of ramshot -"Tac " col is 56.5 for my gun these shoot very good if you want something faster I sometimes use barns 36 grn varmint grenade with 22 grns of tac seated to 57mm these shoot very flat like a laser
    Why so low? That's 3gr below ramshot's start load!
    Thanks for looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliott View Post
    After creating a great load using 22.8gr of Vhit 133 and being slightly disappointed by the velocity of 2,850fps I thought I'd experiment some more with higher charges and keep and eye on pressure signs.

    Max book load for the 53gr V-Max is 23gr and last week I knocked some up in 0.2gr increments from 23gr - 24gr. Best group was at 23.6gr. The group size increased at 23.8gr and started to close up again at 24gr.

    Thinking I might be coming back onto another 'accuracy node' I loaded up some more rounds from 24.2gr - 25gr and tested them out this afternoon at 100 yards.

    Here's the result- all four shot groups: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6toefmsnyg..._0280.JPG?dl=0

    24.4gr and 24.8gr appear to be the best but I can't just decide which load to use. Quite a lot of mirage today so I put the flyers down to me.

    Which load would you choose?
    I'd load up another 5 rds of each and shoot 2 more groups, over a chrono if I could get hold of one, one load may be more consistent.
    Thanks for looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy47 View Post
    I'd load up another 5 rds of each and shoot 2 more groups, over a chrono if I could get hold of one, one load may be more consistent.
    Might be the best way Scott, good idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy47 View Post
    Why so low? That's 3gr below ramshot's start load!
    Because the start load of 23.9grn shot shite no other reason and using the weight I said still makes it very fast and flat shooting I zero one inch high at 100 and have shot fox at 300 plus with a drop of no more than one inch I think that the ramshot chart is a little to hot on some of the loads----- like barrels everyone is different
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAKDINGEL View Post
    Because the start load of 23.9grn shot shite no other reason and using the weight I said still makes it very fast and flat shooting I zero one inch high at 100 and have shot fox at 300 plus with a drop of no more than one inch I think that the ramshot chart is a little to hot on some of the loads----- like barrels everyone is different
    Fair enough, what sort of velocity are you getting? I never had issues with Tac until max load when I was using it with 52gr a-max, at least it'll be kinder to your brass too.

    I'm just sorting out a 40 gr load with Sierra blitzkings and exterminator, found a nice accuracy node at 25.8 so loaded 100 of these up to keep me going but as I had no pressure signs when I get a chance to do some more load testing, I'm going to keep going up to max in .3 gr increments to see if I can find another accurate load. I want it as flat as possible as it will be an NV load and it will make the little pill cope with wind better.

    Edit: now I'm intrigued, was it a lasered 300 yards? Assuming a 1.75" scope height I've just plugged the figures in to a ballistic calculator and to get 1.5" drop from your zero at 300 yards the v-max would need to be doing 5500 fps! I'm guessing your load is doing around 3100-3300 from the load data! The top end of which gives you 8.5" drop at 300...
    Last edited by 223AI; 16-05-2016 at 08:33 PM.
    Thanks for looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAKDINGEL View Post
    Because the start load of 23.9grn shot shite no other reason and using the weight I said still makes it very fast and flat shooting I zero one inch high at 100 and have shot fox at 300 plus with a drop of no more than one inch I think that the ramshot chart is a little to hot on some of the loads----- like barrels everyone is different
    Surely a typo......
    200yards makes more sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pothunter View Post
    Surely a typo......
    200yards makes more sense.
    Yes that's what it should be 200 plus not 300 should have read it before pressing submit would be a bloody ray gun of star-wars if it shot like that at 300 plus one thing I was getting sometimes with the max start load was primers starting to pop out

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAKDINGEL View Post
    Yes that's what it should be 200 plus not 300 should have read it before pressing submit would be a bloody ray gun of star-wars if it shot like that at 300 plus one thing I was getting sometimes with the max start load was primers starting to pop out
    Ha, that makes more sense, sounds like a useful load!
    Thanks for looking

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