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Originally Posted by johnbaz
I have a copy somewhere Mick, Allbeit a little worse for being left in a shed for years!!
John
Funny enough John.
I still use the honing method described by Mike in the book.
All the best Mick
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After the launch of the HW80, pre Ken Turner, Venom tuning was a very simple process for sub 12ftlb conversions. Deburr, fit piston head, add a good spring and some excellent lube. They were a money making machine. So most 'Venoms' made in this period, 82-88, would be very hard to recognise without a sticker. The stocks however, are unmistakeable.
So this 77 and your 85 could very well be a genuine Venoms.
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^ This. What we would consider a polish and very good basic tune up. Think they did some experiments with port sizes and stuff with mixed results. Higher level of bluing and pretty stocks with smoothed tuned actions; think they did some improved piston heads too. Later they got a little more clever.
Some would say if you got a good factory that was smooth there wasn't much in it the other end. Some factory HW77's can shoot. But people bought a Venom because it was going to be worked on until it did tack drive. On the whole they got the best out of the base rifles.
Anyhow to me each has to be taken on its own merit. What value is another thing.i
may also be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocation dingle arm, to reduce sinusoidal repleneration
wHatecver a vennum was it weren't a Lotus Cortina!!!!!!!!!!
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Well that's a wee bit of good news. It is a lovely piece of wood. What's particularly noticeable is the fine thickness of the stock walls. When I saw it I thought that the kick on the grip and the checkering pattern might be venom traits. We'll see how it turns out when it's had a bit of oil and TLC.
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Ironic thread!
I'm a total idiot. Yet even I thought it was a Venom stock.
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The point I'm trying to make, with regard to collecting these 80's custom jobs is that it's all about the woodwork.
The actions you can get tuned, reblued, engraved or whatever - but the stocks are unique.
If you could find someone, good enough to make one, how much would it cost? Best part of £1k would be my guess using French walnut.
I think that you have a very nice Venom 77 there. I love the red recoil pad. Minimal work on the action would put it back to original condition - it does not need to be a laser glide to be brilliant.
Enjoy.
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^This, again.
If it looks good, and shoots well then enjoy.
Laser glide is all a bit modern!
One thing with early customs is that they were reblued from factory, so no harm in rebluing again. Stocks were hand finished, so no harm in hand finishing again. Checkering hand cut so can be hand cut again. They are a custom so can be maintained; factory finish doesn't apply. Looking great does.
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Positive words. Thank you.
Sharing is good healing!
As promised, (and back to the original story), I phoned 'The Airgun Specialist'
He knows the seller but hasn't heard from him for ages.
A tad miffed that he has been implicated to say the least.
So, it's actually quite uncomplicated.
Transpires it was just a little bloke trying to pull a fast one, to feel a bigger man.
And the fact that he said he would take it back, means that he realised he'd been rumbled or lost his bottle.
Ironically, it transpires that this particular gent has a website which offers Airgun coaching and card splitting fun!
Lets face it we all need a positive role model
Hee hee...
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may also be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocation dingle arm, to reduce sinusoidal repleneration
So it is a Venom, but an early Venom and not a later smarter better Venom with the V-Mach type guts in it.... A 35 in a 55 Tyrolean stock is a nice thing but its not as good as a 77. Engraving is a bit kitsch on an airgun so maybe it is 'all for the best in the best of all possible worlds'...
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I totally agree with Rusty on this, the stock is what Venom offered as their 'Hunter' model IIRC.
It may well have been made for them by CS, but there are a few differences that separate it from Custom Stocks own Tyrolean model, the CS600.
The differences are the Venom version has the subtle Schnabel tip to the fore-end, the small extension to the base of the pistol grip and I think the style of the chequering is slightly different to normal CS.
So overall I would say the stock is a Venom marketed model.
People who have been there focus on the fundamentals. People who sit at keyboards all day focus on the trivial and inane.
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http://mynetimages.com/80f22cbefe.jpg
What was being said about self proclaimed experts?
BTW, that link is posted on this thread: http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....-Venom-airguns
Another:
http://www.springgunshooter.co.uk/re...can0003jg4.jpg
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Surrey's Anglo Saxon
or an Allard Anglia
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Can anyone shed light on this HW80?
I was told the stock looked like a Venom Vantage, It has a strange straight trigger blade that some folk seemed to think was a Venom product! I bought it some years ago, The last owner said it was stupidly powerful after they shoehored a massive Ox spring inIt was so harsh it felt like I was getting an electric shock through the hands with vibration!
Pic 1
Pic 2 (Trigger blade)
I chopped all the preload from the spring and it shoots like a dream now!!
Oh- It's a leftie too!And the barrel is from a HW85!!
John
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The stock on the 80 does look like a Vantage, but IIRC weren't later Venom stocks made by Macarri in the US and finished off by Venom?
It may be that this is a Macarri stock that was direct imported.
The straight trigger blade doesn't look like any Venom example I have seen.
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