BSA Scorpion or HW 45 ?

[Bumpsfelt]

... one of each but in 177. Both challenging. BSA is more accurate in my hands but I love the HW trigger. They are idiosyncratic but so rewarding when you get it right. Much more fun than my non- recoilers.

[Benelli B76]

I have repaired a few of these but this is the nicest one that I have come across.

Baz

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[JMH123]

I've got both. HW feels more modern and serious. Scorpion is a big nostalgia rush and absolutely brilliant with a shoulder stock and red dot. Great kids trainer. Great rat buster. Great fun.

Get both S/H and sell the one you don't want (bet you keep both).

[ETCHY]

Thread resurrection time

I really like the look of both of these pistols. I looked at & handled both at an arms & militaria fair in November, a dealer there (chap called Tim Dyson dunno if you've heard of him, he has a site on line ?) had both on his stand.

I don't know why but I didn't buy either & have regretted it since

The Hw45 appeals because it's powerful gets great reviews but looks weirdly out of proportion like a bit of plank attached to some 1911 grips , the Scorpion I like 'cos it's British & just looks mental, like a ray gun from Dan Dare

I've always erred towards the Scorpion but the one thing that bothers me about the Scorpion is that I've heard it's really difficult to cock & can suffer from problems.

Is this the case that the Scorpion is it a pig to cock & will it be a pain in the **** if I get one ? Is the HW45 just better overall?

More opinions & info' etc would be good on either.

Cheers

Dave

[Rickenbacker]

Both are shit.

HTH

[clarky]

unquestionably a Scorpion.
The 45 might seem a better idea on paper but the forward moving recoil of the Scorpion is much easier to control which is the opposite of what one might think....

They compacted a lot in to the 45 for better compactness but the compression ratios/transfer set up is a shocker. Real difficult to tune even if you can get into it easier.
On the otherhand, the Scorpion has the most ideal of harmonics and needs down tuning to keep it legal.
Benched it trounces a 45 for fun..
Hand held we have size and trigger differences to get use to more with a Scorpion but once mastered its not even close...
I shoot with a whole raft load of club shooters that never choose 45s for springer selection.
Gamo Centers, Scorpions walther 53s so much more potential once mastered.
I can shoot a group inside the group i make with a 45 with a LP53 on the same target to save cards....ive also done similar with an Original 5
It just aint an accurate pistol.
The Scorpion isnt hard to cock unless your toy armed.

[tikkapaul]

When the Scorpion pistol first came out and me loving all things BSA I , bought one I recall somewhere around £89 pounds , after a good few years of ratting and the odd rabbit and squirrel , I took it to Scotland to use with my two young nephews who had so much fun with it that I decided to leave it there with them and I got to use it again on my many trips north.
As the years went by I missed it ,on many occasions it would have been to tool to go to for dispatching the odd rat etc, so when seeing one for sale in my local gun shop at a very good price I purchased it .
Then Scotland decided to implement a licence for air weapons and my nephews are now married with sons of their own who do not shoot yet ,so it was decided that the pistol should come home south of the border until they are old enough to shoot .
So now I have two and am having lots of fun with both, accurate and powerful enough for dispatching cage caught vermin, they are easy to cock and have a very good safety button, brilliant piece of kit.

[scholes1965]

just bought a .22 mk1 scorpion pistol serial no ra 3772 for £65. Stripped it down had it re blued and spent
£100 on refurbing it, it was only doing 3.5 ftlbs. After new spring, metal piston head, o ring and buffer washer it was doing 5.9 ftlbs. Before that i had a hw45 better built pistol but in my opinion not as accurate and the best it would manage was 5 ftlbs

[DM80]

HW45 all day its more accurate and more powerfull than the scorpion the 45 is just better built its trigger is better the Bsa is ok but its rubbish compared to th HW45.

[Laporruz]

the two weapons are very good buy the one you like the most

[Geezer]

See post 9 above.

By all accounts, the 45 is easier to work on than the Scorpion. And as a current production model, spares and support are more available.

But the Scorp is, as you say, mental, in a good way.

It is not particularly hard to cock, with the Dan Dare cocking aid. Like most things, there is a knack to it.

[JMH123]

You only ever need one 45. Scorpions are like tempests- I want to buy another every time I see one for sale. Have to try very hard not to. Put a slim silencer on the scorpion, a shoulder stock and a red dot- incredible (but not very pistolly any more)