Quote Originally Posted by Turnup View Post
Where did you get this information from?

Hodgons own website https://www.hodgdon.com/tripleseven.html states "Triple SevenŽ is a revolutionary black powder substitute that cleans up with water alone."

So a) the manufacturer claims it is a BP substitute
and b) Since when can Nitro powder be cleaned with water alone?


Their website also offers 50 grain pellets for use in 44/45 revolver......


Around 10 years ago I had an email exchange with one of the chemists who worked for Hodgdon in the development of 777, when I asked questions about inert fillers, varying of loads, duplex and the like. It is not a substitute in the way that Pyrodex is, which can be used exactly like BP. 777 is a "substitute" in very specific conditions and that is when utilised with the exact load data as produced. It was originally designed to give more velocity from in-line, 209 ignition muzzle loaders. It develops 15 to 20% energy for the same volume. The warnings listed around 777 are many.

.45 cal, 50 grain pellets are for use in in-line M/L rifles. The pistol pellets were 30 grain. They .45/30s were dropped sometime ago.

Never cleaned nitro with water? You've never shot milsurp with corrosive primers and cordite sticks. Boiling water was the only way to clean.

Fact is, dick around with 777 loads, deviating away from the published recipes, then disaster may very well come calling. It seems that people have migrated to 777 without understanding what the propellant is really for and have find som based purely on the aspect that cold running water is all that's needed to clean up. It's not suitable in cap and ball revolvers when you're looking to experiment.