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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnup View Post
    OK loose writing on my part. I was intending the HO Publication "Guide on Firearms Licencing Law" and not all HO Publications (probably no-one could be confident about the content of such a huge body of work and certainly not me), but I agree that my wording was capable of wider interpretation - guilty of the very ambiguity I was railing against!.

    That document, specifically the April 2016 version, mentions moderators, but does not contain the word "silencer".

    The circular 013/2007 mentions silencer only once and mentions moderator only once - both in the single phrase "moderators (silencers)" and clearly here the legal term is moderator.

    The other documents you mention I have not checked so will concede that perhaps their intention is to use them interchangeably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lightning22 View Post
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    Shooting perhaps?
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    Some of us have the tolerance and common sense to understand WTF people mean when they talk of clips, magazines, bullet heads etc, but if it is unclear, we ask.

    The world is full of pedants tapping away on their gummed up keyboards slowing us all down.

    If it matters that much, don't read it, shooters spend enough time bitching at each other without this sort of shite. The poor bloke just wanted to do someone a favour with some lead FFS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parabuteo View Post
    Some of us have the tolerance and common sense to understand WTF people mean when they talk of clips, magazines, bullet heads etc, but if it is unclear, we ask.

    The world is full of pedants tapping away on their gummed up keyboards slowing us all down.

    If it matters that much, don't read it, shooters spend enough time bitching at each other without this sort of shite. The poor bloke just wanted to do someone a favour with some lead FFS.
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    Welcome back tac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parabuteo View Post
    Some of us have the tolerance and common sense to understand WTF people mean when they talk of clips, magazines, bullet heads etc, but if it is unclear, we ask.

    The world is full of pedants tapping away on their gummed up keyboards slowing us all down.

    If it matters that much, don't read it, shooters spend enough time bitching at each other without this sort of shite. The poor bloke just wanted to do someone a favour with some lead FFS.
    Quite right, well said.

    I'd like to add that as far as "silencers" go it's often a valid term IMO on some of the airguns I've seen, or rather just about heard. moderator is of course more accurate though for firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbow View Post
    Quite right, well said.

    I'd like to add that as far as "silencers" go it's often a valid term IMO on some of the airguns I've seen, or rather just about heard. moderator is of course more accurate though for firearms.
    PEDANT ALERT

    1. Air rifles are firearms
    2. A well modded .22 with subs is quieter than almost all air rifles as its only really the action you hear on both and the RF is quieter.

    Agree totally with Chris's post though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy47 View Post

    1. Air rifles are firearms


    If that were true air rifle owners would need a firearms licence wouldn't they.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbow View Post


    If that were true air rifle owners would need a firearms licence wouldn't they.
    Pedant alert.

    They are. But under the act those not capable of over 12ft-lb are those not requiring a license even though they're a firearm. That's why laws broken with them also carry firearm penalties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbow View Post


    If that were true air rifle owners would need a firearms licence wouldn't they.
    They do if they are considered specially dangerous i.e. over 12 ft-lb, a firearm is defined in law as "a lethal barrelled weapon of any description from which any shot, bullet or other missile can be discharged".

    Air rifles are firearms, just because you're ignorant of the fact, doesn't mean it's not a fact
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