Tx200 or hw97

[Barryg]

It may take more work to get it perfect, but the HW77 is the best airgun ever made.

The end!

But it has no ABT and a cocking link that can wear and break adding to the risk, the TX has this covered

[Rickenbacker]

Yeah, better brakes...

[vestlenning]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI_5VrRvWk8

[Rickenbacker]

We call it a Hermann.

Her-mann.

[TonyL]

It may take more work to get it perfect, but the HW77 is the best airgun ever made.

The end!

'Nuff said.

[Barryg]

Central transfer port vs offset

[Jonjon79]

I'm reserving judgment at the moment.

I've now got both

The .22 TX has had some work done and is very nice to shoot.

The .177 97 is a recent, used, acquisition. Although its accurate, it's running close to the level and is very harsh to use. This'll be coming apart in the next couple of days.

[T 20]

Central transfer port vs offset

As long as they're short and concentric with the barrel I don't care where they are, Barry.

I don't like transfer ports that are long and on the piss, like the Weslake b2, Relum Tornado or Diana 34.
Using an angled transfer port introduces two problems in that the transfer port length increases and the air blast has to make it's way round two turns to get to the pellet.

[hmangphilly]

As long as they're short and concentric with the barrel I don't care where they are, Barry.

I don't like transfer ports that are long and on the piss, like the Weslake b2, Relum Tornado or Diana 34.
Using an angled transfer port introduces two problems in that the transfer port length increases and the air blast has to make it's way round two turns to get to the pellet.

don't look at ( insert ....just about any pcp here ) then .

right angled ports and air path turning through 180 degrees is not unusual at all ..yes i know there are exceptions

[T 20]

don't look at ( insert ....just about any pcp here ) then .

right angled ports and air path turning through 180 degrees is not unusual at all ..yes i know there are exceptions

Completely different operating system Mr Mangphilly.

PCPs can have the volume or pressure dialed in to take the angles into account, but seeing as you're talking PCPs, John Bowkett found an inline valve more air efficient on his handmade PCPs.



All the best Mick

[hmangphilly]

Completely different operating system Mr Mangphilly.

PCPs can have the volume or pressure dialed in to take the angles into account, but seeing as you're talking PCPs, John Bowkett found an inline valve more air efficient on his handmade PCPs.



All the best Mick

Aye Mr 20

pretty simple physics ....air likes to travel in straight lines ...


ok rubbish turn of phrase there

air would prefer to travel in a straight line ........you get the idea .. no i'm not a physics person

[Barryg]

As long as they're short and concentric with the barrel I don't care where they are, Barry.

I don't like transfer ports that are long and on the piss, like the Weslake b2, Relum Tornado or Diana 34.
Using an angled transfer port introduces two problems in that the transfer port length increases and the air blast has to make it's way round two turns to get to the pellet.

I was talking sliding breech guns and I think we both know that central TPs are more efficient, anyway almost all break barrels have a long TP but even though the Diana BBs are angled they are central and if they was inefficient how could they achieve this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSdQiM1LAIA

The Century/HW80 etc. cant with the straight TPs

[T 20]

I was talking sliding breech guns and I think we both know that central TPs are more efficient, anyway almost all break barrels have a long TP but even though the Diana BBs are angled they are central and if they was inefficient how could they achieve this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSdQiM1LAIA

The Century/HW80 etc. cant with the straight TPs

Give me a clue here, Barry.

Which gun in the video has exactly the same swept volume as an 80 or a Century ?




All the best Mick

[sherlock1963]

It may take more work to get it perfect, but the HW77 is the best airgun ever made.

The end!

When you get a chance can you make some bits for my Pro Elite? I think your inbox is full. Maybe a Pro Elite will be the best ....... once it is sorted.

In the meantime ...... MK1 TX gets my vote.

[PeteB]

Had both and a '77 (and an HC). I still have the 77. Just feels better in my hands. All were accurate as each other for me.