Webley Pistols-

[ETCHY]

That's good to know thanks for that. I'll look to get a Hurricane (or other Webley) in .22 rather than a Tempest as at least it'll be different looking.

Ah, a BSA Scorpion there were a couple of those being sold by an airgun dealer at a Militaria show a couple of weeks ago & for some dumb reason I didn't get one (they're beasts !) Been kicking myself ever since

Dave

[clarky]

That's good to know thanks for that. I'll look to get a Hurricane (or other Webley) in .22 rather than a Tempest as at least it'll be different looking.

Ah, a BSA Scorpion there were a couple of those being sold by an airgun dealer at a Militaria show a couple of weeks ago & for some dumb reason I didn't get one (they're beasts !) Been kicking myself ever since

Dave

Ive had many Webleys but never got any to shoot anywhere close to my Walther Lp53s after years of practice with both gun types.
While the Hurricane can do a little better due to longer sight base and more accurate adjustment, my groups have never been better than about 1.5 inches off hand at 10 yards.
The rest of the models closer to 2 inches owing to a flier here and there but most of my club compadres not quite so good.
For comparison the similar spring power of the Walther gives me 1/2inch to 3/4 inch groups depending on how well im shooting.
The Walther is mentioned as having a difficult upward recoil but it can be mastered.
The gun is highly consistant and the trigger perfect. Once mastered its deadly but i have never been able to fully master the Webley.
Heres why.
The rearward travelling piston was often quoted as being ideal as it sends all the recoil straight toward the hand. This is true but its the secondary recoil in springers that is hardest to control.
Here, Scorpions and such like get their secondary recoil toward the hand after the initial jump forward, but thr Webley is opposite.
Thus most shooters will out shoot a Webley with Scorpions, Original 5 s etc.
The Walthers secondary recoil is strangely none existant as it comes down through the gun after the initial iump upwards but is very easily controlled in the hand.

[hwtyger]

Dont have experience with old webley pistols. Dó know tempests.
They're just VERY holdsensitive. They are inconsistent in the way that their poi can vary per shooting session. But I also put that down to hold sensitivity.
I can get them to shoot 1 cm edge-edge groups though at about 4.5/5m and can keep 20 shots within 1 "at 10m.
I even shot a 47 ex 50 with my 4.5 Tempest. One-handed, on official 10m pistol target

[Modski66]

"47 ex 50" - Cool!

I struggle to do that with my FWB match pistol...

Mark.

[Geezer]

Agree with all of the above.

Easiest reasonably powerful recoilling springer I own (3 of them) to shoot is the Diana LP5/5G.

But if you can shoot a Webley well - I can't, consistently, though have moments when it all does come together- you can shoot anything well.

[clarky]

Agree with all of the above.

Easiest reasonably powerful recoilling springer I own (3 of them) to shoot is the Diana LP5/5G.

But if you can shoot a Webley well - I can't, consistently, though have moments when it all does come together- you can shoot anything well.

I wonder if it maybe the ptfe washer in the Tempest ...that is so temperature sensitive ...that exasperates the problem....or if it is just down to the rear moving piston that requires perfect consistant hold for the secondary recoil.
....results from tonights little visit to my club.
Tempest.....177 R10....10 mts.....rested ....10 shot.....1.5 inch gp and one discounted flier .....my fault.
Walther LP53 same pellets.......rested .....10 shots ......0.75 inch gp.....no fliers.

off hand
Tempest ....same pellets and range .....2.2 inch after 20 shots......15th shot almost 3 inch flier..
Walther ....nearly 20 pellets into 1 inch circle with one flier at 1.3 inch...my fault

Thus the Walther produces less than half the gp size....
I also tried a batch of Mosquito through the Webley for a slight improvement, suggesting the webley liked these better or maybe i had fully warmed up but later cut the walthers gp size back even smaller with the R10 s..

[hwtyger]

The Walther is a (old) matchpistol. Thats no comparison.
I use JSB Exact in my Tempest .177 and FTT 5.53 in my 5.5 Tempest

Modski, yeah me too. Never tried it since though.

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My first airgun was a Webley Junior air pistol and I still have it. I have owned a number of Webly pistols. They were superbly made and with two hand shooting as a teenager I was able to shoot a number of brown rats and close range sparrows (as you could in those days). That said, and I do thnk they were terriifc pieces of engineering, I believe they are terrible to try and shoot acurately compared to more shootable pistols. So hard to shoot straight, that if you can put 5 shots inside a 10m pistol black at 10m, then you would be awesome with soemthing else.
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[Discocom]

Enjoyed reading through the thread as having recently started using my LP53 and several Webleys after a long break.

I think the LP53 is much easier to shoot with a much better trigger, I can feel the first and second stages which aids accuracy. I also find it much easier to cock too, although I like the 'heft' and feel of the Webley.

[beagle2]

I love shooting the good old webley pistols and with practice I could get quite good groupings with my old Hurricane but I sold that one as I did not like the look of it and I got a Walther LP53 lovely looking thing but I could not hit as the saying goes a barn door with it.

So that one had to go and I got my lovely mint all steel webley premier in .22 that one is a keeper when I can be bothered to practice I can get down to 1" groups with it.

[robhw97k]

im not a lover of webley guns,i liked em in the 70s 80s had a nice tracker which was a nice gun,but now use weihrauch which to me is way better than webley but thats just my opinion.ive had 2 or 3 webley tempest pistols which i found were bad for accuracy,plus there made in turkey now.best pistol ive had was a bsa scorpion,good for power and i was a crack shot with open sights, gun was great for accuracy but my eyes arent the same now so open sights no good for me.not a big fan of webley

[thisisdonald]

Anyone tried the big Diana pistols? Lp8? I think they look the part.. similar to a scorpion..

I'm beginning to regret selling my fwb100... I'm actually feeling 10m withdrawal symptoms.. the old tempest just doesn't cut it.. at least with the fwb I knew the gun was capable of one hole.. the skill was in the moment.