Empty powder tubs...

[activeviii]

And you watch it go down 15% when the pound goes up again...Not.

Another company I wont touch anymore.

Across the board as in UK. Not just one shop. Looks like your not using many shops now. Hehe

[223AI]

Across the board as in UK. Not just one shop. Looks like your not using many shops now. Hehe

I'm afraid I don't believe this, as the powder I have bought shortly before and shortly after Christmas has only gone up 4% - that's from someone who doesn't do it for profit

[SandyB]

I'm afraid I don't believe this, as the powder I have bought shortly before and shortly after Christmas has only gone up 4% - that's from someone who doesn't do it for profit

I can't see 'Businesses' operating like this.... it's great you've got a mate / RFD that'll do that for you, but everyone has a wage to earn and staff and overheads to pay. I truly believe with the withdrawal of the main carrier withdrawing their service, delivery costs have inevitably gone up. I'd expect to have seen the BASC and Countryside Alliance, NRA to name a few protesting and lobbying with government for a provider to be guaranteed....

They all advertise how much shooting contributes to the economy and conservation..

[223AI]

I can't see 'Businesses' operating like this.... it's great you've got a mate / RFD that'll do that for you, but everyone has a wage to earn and staff and overheads to pay. I truly believe with the withdrawal of the main carrier withdrawing their service, delivery costs have inevitably gone up. I'd expect to have seen the BASC and Countryside Alliance, NRA to name a few protesting and lobbying with government for a provider to be guaranteed....

They all advertise how much shooting contributes to the economy and conservation..

You're missing the point here Sandy, if the issue causing the 15% hike is the weak £ as they keep telling us then it's not down to wages and overheads, these haven't increased (apart from the fact they now have to provide an employee pension - they're not blaming this)

Say their business aims to make 20% gross profit on the powder they buy in to cover wages, overheads, and profit if they bought in a kg of powder at £100 before the increase they're selling it on at £120 - £20 gross profit.

If the nett cost has increased 4% due to the weak £ then the nett cost to them is £104.00, so they sell it at £124.80 - £20.80 gross profit, they are making 4% more profit for selling the same kg of powder. That 4 % increase (£4.80) equates to a 4% increase to the consumer but they make more profit. 15% is disproportionate.

Essentially if they were covering costs and making profit before then the should be doing the same or better without the disproportionate increase.

Incidentally, the guy we get it from charges £7.00 per delivery, if he put than on per 1 kg tub he'd still come in at less than most RFDs.

[SandyB]

You're missing the point here Sandy, if the issue causing the 15% hike is the weak £ as they keep telling us then it's not down to wages and overheads, these haven't increased (apart from the fact they now have to provide an employee pension - they're not blaming this)

Say their business aims to make 20% gross profit on the powder they buy in to cover wages, overheads, and profit if they bought in a kg of powder at £100 before the increase they're selling it on at £120 - £20 gross profit.

If the nett cost has increased 4% due to the weak £ then the nett cost to them is £104.00, so they sell it at £124.80 - £20.80 gross profit, they are making 4% more profit for selling the same kg of powder. That 4 % increase (£4.80) equates to a 4% increase to the consumer but they make more profit. 15% is disproportionate.

Essentially if they were covering costs and making profit before then the should be doing the same or better without the disproportionate increase.

Incidentally, the guy we get it from charges £7.00 per delivery, if he put than on per 1 kg tub he'd still come in at less than most RFDs.

I follow you... like you say a great 'opportunity' for the importers and resellers to inflate the price under the disguise of the weak pound. GMK / my RFD charged me +9% on my TRG having had it delivered 6 months after the referendum

[223AI]

I follow you... like you say a great 'opportunity' for the importers and resellers to inflate the price under the disguise of the weak pound. GMK / my RFD charged me +9% on my TRG having had it delivered 6 months after the referendum

Did you place the order prior to Brexit? If so I'd have told them to do one!

[SandyB]

Did you place the order prior to Brexit? If so I'd have told them to do one!

Ordered in April, but unfortunately with GMK any 'special order' Tikka or Sako it's the price at time of delivery, not order that you have to pay and a letter is posted accordingly to the RFD stating this. I was aware as it's the third special order and the letter has been read to me on each occasion. Whilst annoying, not all of this was down to the Euro, as part has been due to the Sako price increases also. I had got the RFD to match the lowest price I'd found, some £100 cheaper than elsewhere, so excluding this the cost went up £125 on a £2500 gun. I could have got a .308 in April for £2545, but wanted the .260 Rem.

Whether the RFD stuck another £30-50 in their pocket, I'll never know

It's here now, so just looking forward to enjoying shooting it.