Single stroke pneumatic rifle? (are there any?)

[CuppaT]

Out of curiosity and perhaps some interest to explore further.

Does anyone make a single stroke pneumatic air rifle these days? (12ft/lb of course)

If not, who, and what models used to be available? I may be interested to look out for one.

Thanks
Tim

[I. J.]

The Air Logic Genesis designed by Richard Spencer. A limited number were produced in .22 although I have heard of one in .177. I know of at least one for sale locally. Its not mine - I could never manage to cock the damn things.

HTH
Ian

[Clanchief]

Also a Titan Mohawk, similar cocking effort required if you did not have the nack,,,,,,,,,,,,, a bit like a bullworker.,

Recently FX have the Independent out which is interesting, but a foot in both camps.

Some old target rifles also were ssp's

[Benelli B76]

As above, there were a few target rifles which were designed for low power target shooting, and the Genesis, Mohawk and Parker Hale Dragon were intended for the 12 ft.lb market. The problem seems to be the huge amount of effort needed to get enough pressure in the chamber in one pump to attain the power output. In my experience the Genesis was the most powerful. Webley were developing the Paradigm a few years ago, but it seems to have died unless anyone has more info on that. With development of multi stage pumps you would think someone would crack it.

Baz

[steve B]

Tried the Genesis and it was a sod to cock. I had a very nice Titan JB1 with interchangeable barrels which once you got the knack was fairly easy to cock, though the cocking/loading procedure was pretty slow compared to, say, a break barrel. It ran at abolut 10.8 in .22, almost completely silent with a silencer attached and was my favourite sniping rifle. Variable power, too.

Why the hell did I sell it???

[bighit]

As above, there were a few target rifles which were designed for low power target shooting, and the Genesis, Mohawk and Parker Hale Dragon were intended for the 12 ft.lb market. The problem seems to be the huge amount of effort needed to get enough pressure in the chamber in one pump to attain the power output. In my experience the Genesis was the most powerful. Webley were developing the Paradigm a few years ago, but it seems to have died unless anyone has more info on that. With development of multi stage pumps you would think someone would crack it.

Baz

last I heard of the webley was the designer touting to the Chinese gun makers. that was a few years back.

[battyone]

I'm hoping to have a look at a JB1 .22 later this week.
A quirky collectible maybe? It'll fit fine in our house.

Looked at a PH Dragon at Melbourne the other week, simpler than the JB but not as pretty. And imo a little pricey.

[Phil Russell]

Daystate Sportsman MK2 gives about 5 - 6 ftlbs for 1 pump, which is quite easy. Two pumps give you around 11 ftlb but taking multiple shots at this power is very tiring.
Not sure if this is relevant, but if a recoiless rifle, non pcp, is what you are looking for ... try and find a Park RH91 or 93. Not a pneumatic but quite recoiless ... works on the opposing pistons principle .. and a superb rifle.
Cheers, Phil

[Benelli B76]

Daystate Sportsman MK2 gives about 5 - 6 ftlbs for 1 pump, which is quite easy. Two pumps give you around 11 ftlb but taking multiple shots at this power is very tiring.
Not sure if this is relevant, but if a recoiless rifle, non pcp, is what you are looking for ... try and find a Park RH91 or 93. Not a pneumatic but quite recoiless ... works on the opposing pistons principle .. and a superb rifle.
Cheers, Phil

Yes Phil super accurate, through the scope used to watch pellets go through a single hole in the target, but oh what a weight, so it had to go in the end.

Baz

[brassbanjo]

Out of curiosity and perhaps some interest to explore further.

Does anyone make a single stroke pneumatic air rifle these days? (12ft/lb of course)

If not, who, and what models used to be available? I may be interested to look out for one.

Thanks
Tim

Somebody has just made a new SSP prototype.

19 ft-lbs and looks very easy to pump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdh0...ature=youtu.be

[Benelli B76]

Quite ingenious, amazing nobody thought of using two levers before, should be a winner. He better get patent.

Baz

[MartynB]

Somebody has just made a new SSP prototype.

19 ft-lbs and looks very easy to pump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdh0...ature=youtu.be

Just watched that video, very clever, could make it much easier to pump if designed and proportioned for 12FtLbs

[albrown]

That's a really interesting development... However, they never seem to take off... I don't know why.. As I really like mine...

I think the JB1, Mowhawk and the Dragon are the ones most easy to get hold of... I have the JB1 from the first Airgun world review. It was handbuilt by John Bowkett... Nice and quiet operator...

However, I have more useful ones which are a multi pump and multi-shot airguns based on the JB1. For me the ultimate self contained airgun.

Its nice to see that this area of airguns is still persued..
Cheers
Alex

[Shed tuner]

Quite ingenious, amazing nobody thought of using two levers before, should be a winner. He better get patent.

Baz

that's brilliant.....

[thisisdonald]

There's been a bit of a race over on the network 54 yellow forum for the last year or so, to design a new full power ssp rifle system... lots of interesting reading there.