Longbow power level

[Darrenm]

What's the best power level for a .177 Webley Longbow.

[Geezer]

About 11 ft/lbs.

There has been some debate on here about whether the L'bow was designed for sub-12 (many people) or for 14ish (me).

I maintain that it, like many other great springers, is designed to be a bit over the UK limit, but still Ok below it.

Most springers in .177" shoot a bit nicer at lower levels, as opposed to chasing the mythical 11.9.

[Darrenm]

Thanks

[PCPShooter]

About 11 ft/lbs.

There has been some debate on here about whether the L'bow was designed for sub-12 (many people) or for 14ish (me).

I maintain that it, like many other great springers, is designed to be a bit over the UK limit, but still Ok below it.

Most springers in .177" shoot a bit nicer at lower levels, as opposed to chasing the mythical 11.9.

Webley never changed sweep or capacity from Vulcan design, so they are designed for UK market, and shoot ideally for that in 22, but require a bit of modification to shoot as well in 177. So they are really a 22 Vulcan, with better stock, central pivot point allowing bolt instead of pin, and nothing more refined than than that -

[TonyL]

Webley never changed sweep or capacity from Vulcan design, so they are designed for UK market, and shoot ideally for that in 22, but require a bit of modification to shoot as well in 177. So they are really a 22 Vulcan, with better stock, central pivot point allowing bolt instead of pin, and nothing more refined than than that -

Which will be why I seem to remember seeing long-stroked Venom / V-Mach ones, then?

Also the Longbow has the much improved trigger mechanism and re-designed breech block with the breech seal now located there as opposed to at the exit of the transfer port? So, a fair amount of re-engineering there?

[PCPShooter]

Yep they changed breach and put in a trigger which is possibly a tad more refined than the late series used on Exocet / Stingray

Now they are going for same / less than hw95 probably about right.

At the time they were selling for 400 etc, lots of people in air gun trade laughing -

[PCPShooter]

Oh- yes the long stroke was shortening piston to give sweep suitable for 177, generally speaking

The Tomohawk was a different design - not be be mixed up with Longbow. Apparently they designed the breach on those based around the spare O rings Webley had rather than a good design ! I guess it's what happens if non shooters and bean counters are in charge, as opposed to shooters and engineers Kinda explains a lot about what happened to Webley .....

[Artfull-Bodger]

Bore stroke of a Vulcan is 27mm x 79mm for a capacity of 45cc,

I seem to recall the longbow being in the 78mm range? either way more than enough capacity for 12 ft lbs.

[Geezer]

I'm not sure I get this. You're saying Longbow is a modified Vulcan, despite the fact that it has a different trigger, stroke, piston, mainspring, safety catch, method of attaching the stock, stock, trigger guard, stock bolts, breech and barrel?

Whereas the Longbow is a different design from the Tomahawk despite sharing the same breech, barrel, cylinder diameter, trigger, safety catch, method of attaching the stock, trigger guard, stock bolts, and basic stock design, the only obvious external difference being a shorter cylinder?

[Rickenbacker]

[...] Most springers in .177" shoot a bit nicer at lower levels, as opposed to chasing the mythical 11.9.

I'm not at all comfortable with ::waves finger about:: this ^^^^.