Is the 223 & 22-250 bullet head the same ?

[warbucks]

Hi Lads.
Im running a 223 at the moment, if i didn't have this already, knowing what i know now, i would have chosen some thing with more range and knock down power.
Is the diameter of the 223 & 22-250 bullet the same, has anyone reloaded any hornady 53g v-max is 22-250, this bullet is supposed to have a better bc than the others ?
Im just thinking more long term on long range foxing as to where to go next if i move on from 223, most of my foxes are the 150 yd mark but im coming across some that wont come in to the caller staying out between 220-300 yds.
Any general suggestion's on the above would be welcome.

Dave (warbucks)

[223AI]

Yes both .224, as is the .222

[Treebone]

The 223 is perfectly adequate for shots out to 300yds, its a matter of confidence in your ability, practice boosts your ability greatly and as such your confidence, no need for the extra blast, recoil and noise of a 22-250, however if your head is telling you thats what you need for the longer foxes, getting a 22-250 will be a boost to your confidence and result in successful longer kills

TB.

[223AI]

I'm running 40gr blitzings at 3650, sub moa at 300 yards and only 5" drop

[Ka-Boom!]

I'm running 40gr blitzings at 3650, sub moa at 300 yards and only 5" drop

That's not a lot of drop!
What range is your zero?

[Elliott]

Love the 53gr V-Max in my 223. 24.8gr of Vhit 133 spits them out at 3,260fps. Lovely!

[223AI]

That's not a lot of drop!
What range is your zero?

200 yards and that drop is measured rather than a ballistic app

[loiner1965]

The 223 is perfectly adequate for shots out to 300yds, its a matter of confidence in your ability, practice boosts your ability greatly and as such your confidence, no need for the extra blast, recoil and noise of a 22-250, however if your head is telling you thats what you need for the longer foxes, getting a 22-250 will be a boost to your confidence and result in successful longer kills

TB.

seen nightstalker on here take rabbits out at 350 yds his .222.
its done to accuate range finding and knowing how good your rifle and your ability etc.....nothing wrong with a .223 rifle

[warbucks]

In my case here i am talking about shooting foxes at night with n/v so cannot dial in, and 80% of the time it has to be taken off shooting sticks.
I was thinking on the lines than a 22-250 zeroed at 250-260 yds with the n/v being 2.6" above the bore that i would have a point blank range of around 280-290 yds using 50/53g bullets doing 3,800 fps ?.

Ive done over 500 foxes since ive owned the 223, bullet wise what iv'e found is ballistic tips of 50g-55g have stopped foxes a lot better than 40g bullets, iv'e tried Federal 40g bt's and Hornady 40g bt's and there was clearly a higher percentage of runners with both of these's, ( with good shot placement), got to say that the Hornady 53g v-max home loads seem to be "amongst" the best so far.

Dave (warbucks)

[Treebone]

Dave, does your NV device have interchangeable reticals? if so how about selecting one with horizontal and vertical hash lines (if it has one) and test shoot targets at fixed distances, to see where the bullets impact corresponding with each hash line.

TB.

[warbucks]

Dave, does your NV device have interchangeable reticals? if so how about selecting one with horizontal and vertical hash lines (if it has one) and test shoot targets at fixed distances, to see where the bullets impact corresponding with each hash line.

TB.

Yes the Drone Pro 10x does have a ladder type retical that could be used for hold over.
Local mate "Optims silk" has just ordered one of "Splatty's" range finders as he has been having the same problem's as me with the 223 so over the next few weeks we should see if this is any help to the long range foxing with the 223's.
I did get a fox last night that was a google earthed 245 yds off sticks.

Dave (warbucks)

[Bomag]

Try 52gr Amax, I found them much better than Vmax for stopping power, better BC too.

[Elliott]

Try 52gr Amax, I found them much better than Vmax for stopping power, better BC too.

The BC isn't quite as good as the 53gr V-Max

[jackal1]

Long range in the dark is one of the reasons i sold my .223 and replaced it with a .204. If i couldn't have a .204 i would have a 22.250 or .243 using 55grn bullets. Flat shooting is a real advantage using n/v.

[warbucks]

The BC isn't quite as good as the 53gr V-Max

Yeh, looked this up last night 52g Amax BC 0.247. 53g Vmax BC 0.290

Dave (warbucks)