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    Quickload Help

    Popped into the local gunshop today for some Vhit 133 and they didn't have any. Picked up a partially used tub (approx 20rns used) of 135 for 50 so thought I'd give it a whirl.

    Would anyone be able to help me save a few rounds and establish a good optimum charge weight to start with using 53gr V-Max? Max charge weight would also be useful to know

    I'm using a standard 223 Tikka T3 Varmint, CCI BR4 primers and new lapua brass. I'll use the same COAL as before which is 2.285"

    Any assistance would be much appreciated. I'll hopefully be buying Quickload myself soon. One of my local RFD's introduced me to it briefly and it seemed great with Vhit 133

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliott View Post
    Popped into the local gunshop today for some Vhit 133 and they didn't have any. Picked up a partially used tub (approx 20rns used) of 135 for 50 so thought I'd give it a whirl.

    Would anyone be able to help me save a few rounds and establish a good optimum charge weight to start with using 53gr V-Max? Max charge weight would also be useful to know

    I'm using a standard 223 Tikka T3 Varmint, CCI BR4 primers and new lapua brass. I'll use the same COAL as before which is 2.285"

    Any assistance would be much appreciated. I'll hopefully be buying Quickload myself soon. One of my local RFD's introduced me to it briefly and it seemed great with Vhit 133
    have you thought about looking at the makers guide manual?
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    Yeah, I've got the basic info but I found that Quickload narrowed it down quite a bit more when I was shown it. In fact, it found the perfect load almost straight away. Need to invest in it myself

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    In that case you won't be interested to know that the online manual does not list a 53gr bullet, but only a 52gr bullet, and that the starting load is 23.8gr and top load is 25.6gr, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacfoley View Post
    In that case you won't be interested to know that the online manual does not list a 53gr bullet, but only a 52gr bullet, and that the starting load is 23.8gr and top load is 25.6gr, right?

    tac
    Yeah, that's what the Vhit online manual states. Using the 52gr bullets as a guide shouldn't be too far off but I'll probably go through 50 rounds before narrowing it down to the good charge weight 'band'.

    I was hoping that someone with Quickload could shorten the process for me

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    https://youtu.be/8ppH7HHREWk

    Thought this link was very interesting.

    Could there be Niche in the market if your local RFD had Quickload and was to charge for the usage of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacknsilver View Post
    https://youtu.be/8ppH7HHREWk

    Thought this link was very interesting.

    Could there be Niche in the market if your local RFD had Quickload and was to charge for the usage of it?
    Thanks for that. Yes, it's an expensive programme! He's pretty local. Just a small time RFD and does it in addition to his day job. I've found two of them near me recently

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    I'd go for the "one book/one calibre" reloading manual for each cal you reload for.
    They list both multiple bullets & multiple powders by manufacturers, very useful indeed, & surprising how often the same combination bullet/powder differ from the two relevant manufacturers.

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    I understand quick load can predict efficiency etc. but would it tell you the most accurate load? This has as much to do with barrel harmonics as anything else which can only be tested in the field surely?
    Thanks for looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy47 View Post
    I understand quick load can predict efficiency etc. but would it tell you the most accurate load? This has as much to do with barrel harmonics as anything else which can only be tested in the field surely?
    It's unbelievably accurate if all the info is entered correctly and saves on time when developing loads. Need to invest!

    Managed to get some assistance on UKV and knocked some loads together to test tomorrow. All sorted now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliott View Post
    It's unbelievably accurate if all the info is entered correctly and saves on time when developing loads. Need to invest!

    Managed to get some assistance on UKV and knocked some loads together to test tomorrow. All sorted now.
    If you do invest you more than welcome to enter my information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennyc View Post
    have you thought about looking at the makers guide manual?
    What the manuals don't take into consideration is the fact that most brands of brass have different internal capacity. The likes of Lapua has more capacity than say, Hornady, so a specified load in a manual might be 3,000psi down when used in a Lapua case. I find QL invaluable, but as stated, you can only confirm accuracy on the range of in the field. There is no substitute for trigger time.

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    Internal case volume from the same manufacturer can also vary greatly. Even from the same bag of brass!

    QuickLoad was an interesting toy, it that's it. Theoretical that itself stated continually that all actual loadings should be verified with manufacturers published data. Novelty soon wore off and thankfully was able to move it on quickly for close to what I paid for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    What the manuals don't take into consideration is the fact that most brands of brass have different internal capacity. The likes of Lapua has more capacity than say, Hornady, so a specified load in a manual might be 3,000psi down when used in a Lapua case. I find QL invaluable, but as stated, you can only confirm accuracy on the range of in the field. There is no substitute for trigger time.

    Jonathan.
    This. ^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    What the manuals don't take into consideration is the fact that most brands of brass have different internal capacity. The likes of Lapua has more capacity than say, Hornady, so a specified load in a manual might be 3,000psi down when used in a Lapua case. I find QL invaluable, but as stated, you can only confirm accuracy on the range of in the field. There is no substitute for trigger time.

    Jonathan.
    sorry I thought that would be self obvious? Quickload suffers in the same way as even if you measure the water volume of the case ,the chamber is still an unknown, I personally think some people overthink the whole thing and that for them the purpose of the exercise is theoretical results as opposed to real life results, that said, there is nothing wrong with that approach if its what rocks your boat.
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