Daystate reliability?

[Regul8]

Hi,

Thinking of a Daystate Airwolf MCT, can someone offer advice on pro's, cons but most importantly reliabillity?

Look fantastic but electronics have major concern for me, what about in the wet or cold gun safe for instance?

Cheers

[Blackmax]

Hi,

Thinking of a Daystate Airwolf MCT, can someone offer advice on pro's, cons but most importantly reliabillity?

Look fantastic but electronics have major concern for me, what about in the wet or cold gun safe for instance?

Cheers

Hi Buddy, welcome to the forum. Umh, a subject that gets a regular airing on here.

Many happy Daystate owners on here, in the main older models, however, many unhappy owners.

The main issues are poor customer service, unreliable underpowered and faults that should never be an issue on such an expensive gun.

I've had one and wasn't impressed as it had a number of issues, a friend had one and it was so poor he traded it in after a couple of weeks for an S410.

There's plenty of choice out there so don't rush your decision and wait for the other responses to your post.

[MrGrumpy]

Airwolfs seem reasonable second hand i know guys with electronic Daystates and the main issue they have had was forgetting the key when going shooting , there sublime to shoot and silenced there is not a quieter gun
Servicing through Daystate is too expensive in my opinion However stafford custom rifles have an excellent reputation and i believe much cheaper
I shoot an Air Ranger and i rate it very highly I have had issues with it but Daystate sorted it and i from experience cant speak highly enough of the aftercare . I do not rate the new non electric guns well overpriced and the refusal to regulate them baffles me i do think there the best looking production airguns on the market but that is of little consequence to me
So as for an air wolf id go for it but id price a service and factor that into what you want to spend then i think it would be a winner

[Meater]

Hi,

Thinking of a Daystate Airwolf MCT, can someone offer advice on pro's, cons but most importantly reliabillity?

Look fantastic but electronics have major concern for me, what about in the wet or cold gun safe for instance?

Cheers

I have one, and not had any issues. I know guys that have, and have had one and never known of an electronics issue. Not saying that there has never been, but can't be that common. Think they need a battery every few years, mine hasn't yet since 2014, but i charge it every month regardless of remaining charge. The electronics are good, the trigger (Rowan) is a switch but an excellent switch. Shot count on mine with a 400 cc bottle in .177 is about 360 before it starts to drop at 80 bar. amazingly accurate to 80yds (range only goes that far), but if I'm totally honest it's no more accurate than either my HW 100 or 97. It looks amazing, but I would go for the HW100 any day if If I could only have 1 PCP. I would go for the HW 97 if I could only have 1 airgun.

The display shows shot count (re-settable), remaining pressure, remaining power, Mag shot count, power level. It has a settable low power warning level, a warning for shot 9 and shot 10 when using a magazine, if set that way will not shoot past shot 10.

Drawbacks: It fires continuously, the 'cocking' lever is just to load a pellet and is not needed to cock it, you get used to this. It can be double loaded. If you accidentally shoot with a pellet in the breach but the loading probe out (easy to do with SSL) it blows the pellet back into the cocking mech, especially if shooting upwards, once you know and understand this its easy to sort out.

All this being said, mine never gets, and never will get wet and isn't stored in a cold gun safe.

This is my honest opinion based only upon what I think. There may be other things I've missed.

[Jesim1]

Daystates are very much a love/hate relationship. I've had half a dozen Air wolves and still have the LE version - the Grey Shadow, I've also had half a dozen MK4is's and still have the LE version of that - the Platinum. In all honesty I've never had a problem with any of them, so I struggle with the slating many people give them, but I can only assume they have had a bad experience in the past, such as with anything in life. I would not worry about the electronics - they have been around for quite a few years now and seldom give trouble, but if they concern you - there is always the AirRanger? Most RFD or specialists will do a service on a Daystate at around the same price as any other gun - just call and ask them.

It did seem a common theme a few years back for people to get a new Daystate Regal with stiff bolts and underpowered at 10.somthing, but all mine bar my wives Regal have been over 11 with the right pellets, and my wife's will do this also, but the gun shoots far better with other pellets doing high 10s, so she sticks to those through choice, the targets she shoots don't seem to mind.

As for customer service, I only needed it when I bought 2 x new Regals and both had sticking bolts which were back to Daystate and then back to me within a week - inconvenient and it should not have happened, but it was sorted very quickly and they sent me 2 vouchers for a free service, so I can't knock them at all.

Like any gun, there will be people having issues, but on the whole I'd say the Airwolf is one of the more reliable guns out there, has a great shot count, good looks, and very accurate. The only thing I'd change would be the weight - you certainly would not want to be carrying it all day, I'd take my wives Regal!

James

[villaman]

The airwolf is probably the best daystate imo the rest are very, overrated and overpriced ,saying that the wolf is over priced as well

[Seamaster]

I've had very bad experiences with Daystate but the electronic rifles I've had have been OK. Nothing special compared to other makes but OK.
I'd say, beware of the bling and the lovely walnut stocks, they mask many faults, and never think that, because you pay top price you're getting top quality.
Your average Daystate owner is confused about price and quality.

Chris

[fife]

HI, I have tryed difrent gun listning to others and sometimes i get dissapointed all guns have there draw backs , my experiences with Daystate has been brilliant and thats been totally honest , I have a 22 aire ranger and a 177 wolverine and the accurisey is briliant. go for it and good luck bob.

[TORNADOS7]

Any particular reason why you want a 'Daystate' above all others, can't say they impress me much and as for the price...

A friend of mine has one, not sure what model it is now as there's that many (Air Ranger I think) but I can assure you of one thing 'it'll not outshoot my TXhc' at 30yds all things being equal that is, if ever I was to have another PCP then my money would be on an AA/S410 but as it stands PCP's don't float my boat...

[clueless]

I used to be a big daystate fan, but the quality definitely went south with build quality and power/ reliability issues when it changed to Italian ownership.

I swore I would never buy one again, but was bought a new Regal late last year as a gift and it's been a brilliant rifle, the powers right, the finish is excellent and it's as accurate as anything out there.

So much so that in a moment of feeling flush I bought a new Saxon, and I know it looks like a gypsies trinket, but it doesn't half shoot well, beautifully built as well!

I might have been lucky but my local dealer reckons that after so many complaints Daystate are getting their act together again!

[Jonjon79]

I've had 2 Airwolfs, a .22 and a .177. I bought them both used and, they were both spot on - accurate and reliable. I just couldn't get over that dead feeling that electronic rifles seem to have.
Both very nice rifles, just soulless.

I also had a .177 Merlyn. I found it to be just as accurate but, without the electronics, nicer to use.

[Artfull-Bodger]

Had a Mk3 for three years, only thing I had to do was change the batteries before I sold it, great gun, no trouble at all.

[secretagentmole]

Daystate are OK. The electrical rifles have a trigger mechanism that is very quiet, takes getting used to the mouse click.

The biggest fault is only really likely to be encountered if you are roost shooting using a magazine (as opposed to single shot elevated target shooting). Pellets can follow the probe back out of the magazine (the probe is pulled back, the magazine advances and the bloody pellet falls out of the back of the magazine) into the cocking mechanism, causing rattling, a stiff cocking action and gumming the damned thing up entirely!

Gently shake the gun without a magazine in, if it rattles factor in a service to get the lead out!

[para]

I have the air ranger - great rifles and reliable, electronic models will at some point need a battery change depending on use I had the Mk3 and eventually the batteries fail although not a difficult fix (follow the maintenance instructions not like me) and you will get better service from them. The electronic triggers are good and I recommend them you can also adjust the power for shooting in confined spaces. As for the shot counter etc useful but not necessary.
Customer service - I've had no problems and they helped me out when I needed it with parts etc.

Make sure you try before you buy get the power chronographed. As with any gun you'll have to find a pellet which suits the barrel.

[Rich]

When we have new potential members at the club, we give them the opportunity to try out as many rifles as we can line up for them, before they decide what to go out and buy for themselves.

Sometimes, if I have it with me, I'll let them have a go with my early Airwolf (pre-iS model) and all I can say is, pretty well everyone who tries it would like to buy it.