Tx200 v prosport

[Barryg]

Here are a few facts that get mentioned when you get tx vs ps threads, better than all the different personal opinions

I think that most would say the PS is the best looking airgun in production but the things to consider are that the PS action is basicly a HC action with a concealed lever and that lever set up is not without faults, have you seen this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHtshzPMyrU

http://imgur.com/rideefO

But the worst bit for me is the bolt that attaches the linkage to the cylinder as I like to dismantle my gun a lot and this bolt can wear and come loose

http://imgur.com/Ib0vzoQ

But I still like the PS as it is the last of the old concealed lever type left in production

The TX is hard to fault and I like the HC, the mk 3 HC can and does win world championships and also if you want it for back garden plinking you can fit a proper silencer and if you are strong enough to handle the weight the cocking effort should be no bother at 28 lbs.

[EV2UK]

Some great replies guys.

I'm almost sure I'll go for the TX it was the first rifle I spent a fair bit if money on after many B2s and BSA Meteors so I do have quite a large soft spot for them.

Not sure why the HC version though, not into hunting just target.... Just think that the HC looks slightly better.?



Tony

[Barryg]

Not sure why the HC version though, not into hunting just target.... Just think that the HC looks slightly better.?



Tony

Same here LOL I also think it looks better and I don't hunt

[Trumpetier]

Target shooting ? get the full length, easier to cock over prolonged shooting sessions

[Blackrider]

Personally I prefer the TX for hunting. Both are not light though and weigh even more when scoped up.
I dont like the ally underlerver on the P'sport, its "angular" and uncomfortable. I always get the feeling it may one day bend or distort when cocking.

However, I hate the fishscale checkering on the TX though and prefer the skip checkering on the P'sport but it dosnt help when Air Arms decided not to make a left hand version of this air rifle, shame on you Air Arms !

So its a TX200HC all the way for me and in .22 calibre !
A beech stock is fine by me, I would only take it out in the pouring rain anyway but I guess I'll have to live with the lousy checkering.

[johnbaz]

I have a TX in .177cal, Love the rifle as the stock is the most comfy that i've ever held but I find my arthritic fingers struggle like crazy to get the fiddly little pellets in to the barrel!

It may have to go and maybe i'll get one in .22 (Or mebbe .25!! )



John

[PhatMan]

EV2UK,

If you prefer the balance, looks etc. of the Prosport, get one and send it to Mr. Gibney for one of his 21mm conversions.

The cocking effort of the 21mm conversions are very much less than the standard or short-strokes, so the Prosport should not be a problem after the fettle

Have fun & a good Sunday

Best regards

Russ

[derekj]

Just a comment about the Pro Sport. I always use anschutz target glove taylor'd to accept the PS under lever. Can shoot for hundreds of shots without it getting uncomfortable.

[Telephonepete]

i could not get on with the pro sport and got rid very quickly. i now have tx full length and hc.

[John doe]

Owned both prefer prosport for balance, looks, and quieter cocking.

[look no hands]

Here are a few facts that get mentioned when you get tx vs ps threads, better than all the different personal opinions

I think that most would say the PS is the best looking airgun in production but the things to consider are that the PS action is basicly a HC action with a concealed lever and that lever set up is not without faults, have you seen this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHtshzPMyrU

http://imgur.com/rideefO

But the worst bit for me is the bolt that attaches the linkage to the cylinder as I like to dismantle my gun a lot and this bolt can wear and come loose

http://imgur.com/Ib0vzoQ

But I still like the PS as it is the last of the old concealed lever type left in production

The TX is hard to fault and I like the HC, the mk 3 HC can and does win world championships and also if you want it for back garden plinking you can fit a proper silencer and if you are strong enough to handle the weight the cocking effort should be no bother at 28 lbs.

Not sure why you have to keep taking your PS apart Barry? I've only ever had mine apart a handfull of times in the many years I've owned it and that was when I fitted a tuning kit to it, I haven't had to touch it since and I haven't opened her up in nearly ten years, I've never had a problem with the cocking lever and mine is a very early one with the short stroked action from the factory, the only "upgrades" I've done apart from a Welsh Willy tuning kit and a Vortek "O" ring head are putting it into a later walnut stock and fitting the two extra side bolts to hold the action in the stock.

One of your photo's is very deceiving as it looks like if you take the rear bolt out that holds the trigger block in the alloy mounting rail under the main cylinder comes away as well (I know you haven't implied that's what happens but it could look like it does) as for the bolt that holds the cocking linkage to the compression tube, why you keep removing that is beyond me, you don't need to, to do a spring service or even to replace anything on the piston (yes it helps to take it out but you don't need to), I did read many years ago about that bolt coming loose but I Loctited it in just in case and it hasn't moved since, I really don't see what all the fuss is about regarding the cocking lever being uncomfy, fare enough I don't use it as much as most others would on here but when I do it still astounds me how it manages to put the pellets where I want them to go without me even trying (it's like the Firefox of the airgun world, just think what you want and it does it) it's that bloody good and if you had one like mine then you would understand why you don't need no Weihrauch

Pete

[Barryg]

Not sure why you have to keep taking your PS apart Barry? I've only ever had mine apart a handfull of times in the many years I've owned it and that was when I fitted a tuning kit to it, I haven't had to touch it since and I haven't opened her up in nearly ten years, I've never had a problem with the cocking lever and mine is a very early one with the short stroked action from the factory, the only "upgrades" I've done apart from a Welsh Willy tuning kit and a Vortek "O" ring head are putting it into a later walnut stock and fitting the two extra side bolts to hold the action in the stock.

One of your photo's is very deceiving as it looks like if you take the rear bolt out that holds the trigger block in the alloy mounting rail under the main cylinder comes away as well (I know you haven't implied that's what happens but it could look like it does) as for the bolt that holds the cocking linkage to the compression tube, why you keep removing that is beyond me, you don't need to, to do a spring service or even to replace anything on the piston (yes it helps to take it out but you don't need to), I did read many years ago about that bolt coming loose but I Loctited it in just in case and it hasn't moved since, I really don't see what all the fuss is about regarding the cocking lever being uncomfy, fare enough I don't use it as much as most others would on here but when I do it still astounds me how it manages to put the pellets where I want them to go without me even trying (it's like the Firefox of the airgun world, just think what you want and it does it) it's that bloody good and if you had one like mine then you would understand why you don't need no Weihrauch

Pete

Pete I don't blame you for likeing your PS it sounds like a nice one
But you must have seen the threads where owners have had problems with the cylinder bolt and not just one or two.
The PS a nice airgun and the last of its kind but the lever/linkage setup
Can only be described as adiqute, I wonder if the cylinder bolt could be replaced with a hinge pin.

[look no hands]

Pete I don't blame you for likeing your PS it sounds like a nice one
But you must have seen the threads where owners have had problems with the cylinder bolt and not just one or two.
The PS a nice airgun and the last of its kind but the lever/linkage setup
Can only be described as adiqute, I wonder if the cylinder bolt could be replaced with a hinge pin.

I totally agree that the underlever set up could be better, like I said I read about ten years ago about the bolts coming loose (can't remember if AA where not Loctiting them from the factory) but there are plenty of high quality bolts available (if you're worried about the original bolt) that only need Loctiting in to solve the problem, I also agree that the TX is better built and the TXHC I had before the PS stole my heart just flabbergasted me with it's engineering robustness (infact I just kept cocking the damn thing as it was mesmerizing to see so much quality there was being used on an air rifle), I very nearly bought another TX the other day but just can't justify having one when it would never get used.

Pete

[mglhunter]

i too don't understand people complaining about the cocking handle, yes it feels a bit flimsy at first handling but in a year i have had never had a problem.
Carefully smoothed the sharp edges with a file even though it is not needed, i wear fingerless shooting gloves anyway.

About the bolt under the cylinder, no big deal as well because i have loctited mine as soon as i heard about this problem when rifle was brand new and since it stayed there as if it was welded. You don't need to undone that screw to service the rifle that is not needed unless you wanted the compression chamber out of rifle.

All in all PS is a fine machine if you have a bit of mechanical skills to fix things, but if you have no knowledge about how things work then you will end up breaking anything really. My friend has a TX which was bought after my PS and he has broken a cocking shoe etc already so it comes down the driver behind the trigger.

if i was not a tinkerer i for one might be anti PS because shrould started walking forward when it was new and i have glued it back with epoxy.
Morale of the story is all machines fail and has their weak points but you know what you are doing then they will last a life time.
General quality i found with AA rifles are excellent compared to Diana Gamo Hatsan etc.

[look no hands]

i too don't understand people complaining about the cocking handle, yes it feels a bit flimsy at first handling but in a year i have had never had a problem.
Carefully smoothed the sharp edges with a file even though it is not needed, i wear fingerless shooting gloves anyway.

About the bolt under the cylinder, no big deal as well because i have loctited mine as soon as i heard about this problem when rifle was brand new and since it stayed there as if it was welded. You don't need to undone that screw to service the rifle that is not needed unless you wanted the compression chamber out of rifle.

All in all PS is a fine machine if you have a bit of mechanical skills to fix things, but if you have no knowledge about how things work then you will end up breaking anything really. My friend has a TX which was bought after my PS and he has broken a cocking shoe etc already so it comes down the driver behind the trigger.

if i was not a tinkerer i for one might be anti PS because shrould started walking forward when it was new and i have glued it back with epoxy.
Morale of the story is all machines fail and has their weak points but you know what you are doing then they will last a life time.
General quality i found with AA rifles are excellent compared to Diana Gamo Hatsan etc.

At last someone who thinks the same as me

Pete