Luger replica pistol - which one?

[capt hindsight]

I've always had a thing for the Luger and having recently seen two at Carlisle Military Museum (a WW1 version with wood grips and a WW2 version) I really fancy a co2 copy but which make?


Both the Umarex legend and the Gletchers look accurate copies but has anyone got one or even both??


Are the grips on the Gletcher P08 actually wood?

Is it worth paying extra for the blowback version of the Umarex legend?

So which is best and can either fire pellets or are they strictly BB?


Any info very welcome, I've seen neither of these guns in the flesh and will have to order one blind from my rfd.

cheers

Ed

PS I don't want anything with 'Made in China/Taiwan' on the side, that would totally ruin it for me!

[Geezer]

Grips are plastic. BB only.

I too have been tempted, and gave in with a Mauser C96, even though I generally do not like BB firers.

I could probably not give in to temptation if they offered a 6" barrelled Navy or (please!) an 8" barrelled Artillery model with tangent sight, detachable stock and "trommel" magazine.

[lew07]

Why not buy a deactivated real Luger

[Tony.T]

Well- been here myself.

I bought a really nice Airsoft Luger navy replica from Mike at Elite Shooting some years back before the stupid VCR rules were enforced. A very realistic replica but shoots 6mm airsoft shot.

Last year I bought a KWC BB blowback replica from my local dealer.

It's good- very good. The detail and construction is excellent. It strips just like the real steel (in fairness so did the airsoft pistol) The grips are plastic, but I've bought some wood grips from India of all places, these will need a bit work on the inside to make fit but it's doable. The pistol itself has a very brisk blowback action, so much so you are hardly aware of it- probably like the real thing considering a fairly substantial bit of engineering is doing its thing in front of your face. Impressively scary- let someone else shoot it and watch from the side.

Inho you have to buy a blowback Luger- nothing else captures the whole point of it.

Oh and before you ask- is it accurate? Sorry- not relevant, the pleasure is in the design and function. It MAY hit a can at 10yds- but frankly who cares

[blooregard]

Tony has nailed it here.

You only buy a blowback Luger, no point otherwise (unless you are a limp wristed lefty communist wierdo).

The KWC is the best model without doubt, it is sold under numerous brands though, Gletcher included. If you do buy a Gletcher make sure you buy the Gletcher Parabellum rather than the Gletcher P08.

The Parabellum is the KWC model and has a more realistic action, full sized magazine and stores the CO2 in the mag rather than in the pistol.

[ejackyou]

Wondering, is the Umarex 'Legends' Blowback a KWC, it's a little cheaper?

[beagle2]

Why not buy a deactivated real Luger

I do not get this deactivated thing many years ago I got a Welthar PPK it was a beautiful thing the bluing was really good but two things really bugged me one was to see the mess that they had made of the inside stopping it from working.

The second thing was after you have played with it and looked at it what good is it if they could have converted it to shoot bbs like the Markov that would be good in the end I got bored with it and sold it I am afraid that I like my toys to do something not just be an expensive ornament.

[gingernut]

Paperweights in my view.

[harry mac]

Why not buy a deactivated real Luger

'cos that's just several hundred quids worth of paperweight that you can't shoot with.
Should have read gingernut's post before I wrote that

[lew07]

'cos that's just several hundred quids worth of paperweight that you can't shoot with.
Should have read gingernut's post before I wrote that

Yeah but look at the history behind the real Luger.Collectors that have live firing all matching numbers Lugers dont bother to fire them.

Oh Yes and mine is now worth today about five times what I bought it for (not that I want to sell it). That aint gonna happen with Your air gun Lugers

[blooregard]

Yeah but you can't shoot it, its a paper weight!

It might be worth 5 times what you paid for it but that means buying one today is not an attractive investment, especially if you want to shoot it!

[harvey_s]

Yeah but look at the history behind the real Luger.Collectors that have live firing all matching numbers Lugers dont bother to fire them.

Oh Yes and mine is now worth today about five times what I bought it for (not that I want to sell it). That aint gonna happen with Your air gun Lugers

Yeah, but all you can do is stand there and shout 'Bang! Bang!'.... ain't exactly living the dream is it?

[Josie & John]

I could probably not give in to temptation if they offered a 6" barrelled Navy or (please!) an 8" barrelled Artillery model with tangent sight, detachable stock and "trommel" magazine.

Me too!

John

[Josie & John]

The original question is actually a pretty hard decision. Certainly the KWC for the blowback action and ability to field strip. On the downside, accuracy is not that good but good enough on soft drinks cans at 6 yards or so. The black finish on the KWC and white writing detracts too but can be removed.

The greyer finish on the non blowback Umarex is a little closer to the original, as are the markings on the pistol. The finish can be 'battle worn' through carefully applying a magic eraser to high spots in order to mimic years of use. Accuracy and power are higher too.

I ended up with both!

John