1st time reloaded the 223

[tacfoley]

I use a lee loader for my .22 hornet, cost me 32p a round to reload v-max,
factory is 83p a round.
It's time consuming but very satisfying.
I started off just with a lee loader, did alright
Since added a lee case length guide and cutter and s/H Lyman powder measure
And an ultra sonic cleaner and it's much easier.

I owe you an apology, Sir. When I saw the post above, and you mentioned that your .22 Hornet ammunition cost you 83p per round for factory stuff. I thought that you were off your head.

However, having looked up the prices in an effort to come back with a scathing remark, I realise - looking at Kirklees Guns - that 83p per round is actually toward the lower end of the price of this unbelievably expensive ammunition, with £103-something at the top.

WTF? x 1000

Anybody here, especially an RFD, like to comment on this utterly ridiculous price?

tac, still reeling........metaphorically, that is.

[loiner1965]

tac....
i remember a few years ago my mate let me have a go with his hornet and that was £1 a bang.....i must have rattled off a tenners worth

[Daveo]

I owe you an apology, Sir. When I saw the post above, and you mentioned that your .22 Hornet ammunition cost you 83p per round for factory stuff. I thought that you were off your head.

However, having looked up the prices in an effort to come back with a scathing remark, I realise - looking at Kirklees Guns - that 83p per round is actually toward the lower end of the price of this unbelievably expensive ammunition, with £103-something at the top.

WTF? x 1000

Anybody here, especially an RFD, like to comment on this utterly ridiculous price?

tac, still reeling........metaphorically, that is.

No apology needed, at least you were Gentlemanly enough to check before Calling me out.
It is indeed that expensive for the diminutive .22 hornet
The thing is it suits my permission, a hmr would for 90% of the time but we all know how hard they are to feed at the moment.
Reloading for the hornet is the obvious choice, a lb of powder lasts a while at 12.6grains per round.

[223AI]

I owe you an apology, Sir. When I saw the post above, and you mentioned that your .22 Hornet ammunition cost you 83p per round for factory stuff. I thought that you were off your head.

However, having looked up the prices in an effort to come back with a scathing remark, I realise - looking at Kirklees Guns - that 83p per round is actually toward the lower end of the price of this unbelievably expensive ammunition, with £103-something at the top.

WTF? x 1000

Anybody here, especially an RFD, like to comment on this utterly ridiculous price?

tac, still reeling........metaphorically, that is.

Same down this way, £100+ / 100.

Seems a lot but what are you really saving over .223 which everyone expects to pay £100-120 / for, 7-10 grains of powder, that's about it!

[RobinC]

I owe you an apology, Sir. When I saw the post above, and you mentioned that your .22 Hornet ammunition cost you 83p per round for factory stuff. I thought that you were off your head.

However, having looked up the prices in an effort to come back with a scathing remark, I realise - looking at Kirklees Guns - that 83p per round is actually toward the lower end of the price of this unbelievably expensive ammunition, with £103-something at the top.

WTF? x 1000

Anybody here, especially an RFD, like to comment on this utterly ridiculous price?

tac, still reeling........metaphorically, that is.

Could be worse!! Much Worse!!

We shoot the 300 mt match with 6 mmBR, factory match 106 gn ammo is £1.75 a pop, and thats if you can get it! One match is 70 shots with sighters, and the wife and I shoot 2000 a year between us. And No, we can't afford the factory ammo, thats why we reload.

The price is high because world wide the demand is low, and the precision is high, I suspect .22 hornet is similar.

I paid for our reloading investment halfway through our first seasion.

Have Fun
Robin

[tacfoley]

I understand the rationale - I've been reloading since the early 70's, and now reload for eight different cartridges, thus saving myself untold amount of money.

What I don't understand is how such a common or garden calibre like .22 Hornet, or as it is called in Europe, 5.6x35, is priced like that.

Guess I've been out of buying factory stuff here in UK for so long that it has all passed me by.

Good, eh?

tac

PS - I've often meant to ask, but what does the list of guns of one kind or another at the underscore to your post signify?

[Daveo]

Probably because of limited demand.
Looking on guntrader 300+ .223 for sale, 20 .17 hornets and 10
Yes 10 .22 hornet,
It's not the popular Calibre it once was

[anthony]

can we please get back to MY Topic thank you

[Blackbaronfish]

can we please get back to MY Topic thank you

I think its all relevant what's been said. You could be going down the reloading road for very little gain.
It all depends on what and how much your shooting.

BBF

[angrybear]

can we please get back to MY Topic thank you

Think of it like running a car, most people will say it does so many mpg, so "P" per mile is the price of a gallon divided by mpg, they forget the cost of tax, servicing, tyre wear, parking etc etc.

Most reloader's don't include the cost of equipment in the price per round because tools are an asset that last years or can be sold on if you stop.

So in consumables, bullets £25/100 = 25p each, primer 5p, powder maybe 10-15p, cases 28p ea but divided by the number of times they can be reloaded so ?? call it 50p per bang.

So you might save 20-50p per shot depending on what factory ammo you use but it will take 500-1000 shots to make back the initial outlay of equipment to make them.
but
The actual reloading can become a hobby in itself & doing the load testing is great fun if frustrating at times.

[anthony]

Think of it like running a car, most people will say it does so many mpg, so "P" per mile is the price of a gallon divided by mpg, they forget the cost of tax, servicing, tyre wear, parking etc etc.

Most reloader's don't include the cost of equipment in the price per round because tools are an asset that last years or can be sold on if you stop.

So in consumables, bullets £25/100 = 25p each, primer 5p, powder maybe 10-15p, cases 28p ea but divided by the number of times they can be reloaded so ?? call it 50p per bang.

So you might save 20-50p per shot depending on what factory ammo you use but it will take 500-1000 shots to make back the initial outlay of equipment to make them.
but
The actual reloading can become a hobby in itself & doing the load testing is great fun if frustrating at times.

thanks for your info and i just picked this lot up for a very good price
lee classic 4 hole turret press
hornady dies
100 223 cases
lee powder scales
lube and felt pad
lee case trimmer

[223AI]

The actual reloading can become a hobby in itself & doing the load testing is great fun if frustrating at times.

OP you have been warned! particularly if you start loading for more than one calibre for multiple disciplines

[223AI]

Probably because of limited demand.
Looking on guntrader 300+ .223 for sale, 20 .17 hornets and 10
Yes 10 .22 hornet,
It's not the popular Calibre it once was

That's because people don't sell them on! It is as popular as the 17H and a lot of people are replacing the HMR with either hornet some preferring the new kid on the block some going the traditional route.

In terms of cost of reloading there really is nothing in it between 0.22H and 0.223 other than 7 - 15 grains of powder so not surprising cost is on a par.