The Flip up breech did anyone like them?

[Barryg]

Safe but inefficient

http://imgur.com/JQx96rW

Could they ever be considered again

[Geezer]

Safe but inefficient

http://imgur.com/JQx96rW

Could they ever be considered again

Yes, I do like them, whether on the Webley or on the Anschutz they copied it from.

Inefficient, safe, but really quite appealing.

[Barryg]

Yes, I do like them, whether on the Webley or on the Anschutz they copied it from.

Inefficient, safe, but really quite appealing.

Have you got any pics of a Anschutz flip up breech?

[Hsing-ee]

There was a good one on the Feinwerkbau 100 series air pistol.

All the other ones are a bit sad, never mind the inefficiencies of the device.

They remind me of the trap-door loading system on Snider rifles, a sort of half-arsed temporary thing that would do at a pinch until something better could be devised.

[Geezer]

Have you got any pics of a Anschutz flip up breech?

No. I knew it was one of those Germans. I meant Walther.

Walther.

Walther.

Walther.

[max headroom]

didn't mind them but preferred the roll breach.

[Bjacobs571]

There was a good one on the Feinwerkbau 100 series air pistol.

All the other ones are a bit sad, never mind the inefficiencies of the device.

They remind me of the trap-door loading system on Snider rifles, a sort of half-arsed temporary thing that would do at a pinch until something better could be devised.

I think you are thinking of something like a trapdoor springfield as the snider opens sideways unlike the flip up breaches.

The Bakal mp46k Steyr lp1/lp10 and Tau also use flip up breaches. They make sense on a PCP rifle/pistol.

[Blackrider]

Had a Mk. 1 Webley Eclipse with the "flip-up" breech in .22 Cal. and I liked it as it was so easy to load.
Maybe the idea should be revisited ?

[gingernut]

I like them.
Mainly because people often try and put a pellet in the wrong hole.

[Murphy]

I loved them because the Eclipse was one of the rifles I lusted after when I was 10.

But it was too big and too expensive for me then!!

Luckily I have one now but I'm always looking for a MK2 K in .177.

Same with the Superstar in Mk2 K and .177.

[Shed tuner]

yeah, I like them too. RB as fitted to superstar, latter airsporter, Gamo CFX etc is quite good, but much more fiddly, and just as inneficient.
When a D46 comes up cheap I'll be in there...

[maximus]

Really a pop up breach like the 57 is one of the best ideas so long as it aligns which should not be too difficult to make work and the HW's opens for you!

[Shed tuner]

Really a pop up breach like the 57 is one of the best ideas so long as it aligns which should not be too difficult to make work and the HW's opens for you!

So does the Gamo Cf16/20

As you say though, indirect loading is the problem.. the flip ups do not have this problem.

[Muskett]

Also had an Eclipse in .22. Very accurate. Loading took an age, the underlever, then the breech flip to load a pellet, then safety catch, just all took yonks. All underlevers do but the flip up breek was just one more thing to do.
Of technical note they need to be done well and just another potential issue to go wrong somehow. Better than a loading tap I suppose.
So yes they do work if done well; yes, the Eclipse was a nice rifle, but no, can't see any reason for bringing the flip up breech back.

[Garvin]

No. I knew it was one of those Germans. I meant Walther.

Walther.

Walther.

Walther.

Walther LGR breech.

Closed.