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    The Anti Tune

    Has anyone gone for building a rifle using the opposite of the ideas that promote good accuracy and 'useability'?

    A springer with the strongest spring crammed into the action, which is slathered in thick grease.
    The weight should be reduced to the minumum, possibly a 'wire' Sten-gun type stock attached to the back block.
    Any trigger mechanism ought to be replaced with a single-piece trigger/sear arrangement.
    A leather piston washer soaked in diesel fuel.

    Have I missed anything out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Have I missed anything out?
    Yes: HW35 stamped into the action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Has anyone gone for building a rifle using the opposite of the ideas that promote good accuracy and 'useability'?

    A springer with the strongest spring crammed into the action, which is slathered in thick grease.
    The weight should be reduced to the minumum, possibly a Sten-gun type stock attached to the back block.
    Any trigger mechanism ought to be replaced with a single-piece trigger/sear arrangement.
    A leather piston washer soaked in diesel fuel.

    Have I missed anything out?
    A cheap Chinese 8-40x56 mounted backwards to give a smaller than real image

    Ooohh and drill the barrel pivot out si it wobbles like Mr blobby
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinbum View Post
    Yes: HW35 stamped into the action.
    Or 44?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinbum View Post
    Yes: HW35 stamped into the action.
    You are quite shocking in your attitude to 'the old lady of Mellrichstadt'! Without the HW35 no-one in England would have believed an airgun could be accurate. Try shooting a coke can with a 1974 BSA Airsporter and period pellets.

    If you see one laying around to the value of one Webley .455 BB revolver then put on your rubber gloves and take a black bin bag, wrap it and put it aside for me would you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Has anyone gone for building a rifle using the opposite of the ideas that promote good accuracy and 'useability'?

    A springer with the strongest spring crammed into the action, which is slathered in thick grease.
    The weight should be reduced to the minumum, possibly a Sten-gun type stock attached to the back block.
    Any trigger mechanism ought to be replaced with a single-piece trigger/sear arrangement.
    A leather piston washer soaked in diesel fuel.

    Have I missed anything out?
    Now this has got legs

    - I actually think that this could be a lot of fun

    All of the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    You are quite shocking in your attitude to 'the old lady of Mellrichstadt'! Without the HW35 no-one in England would have believed an airgun could be accurate. Try shooting a coke can with a 1974 BSA Airsporter and period pellets.

    If you see one laying around to the value of one Webley .455 BB revolver then put on your rubber gloves and take a black bin bag, wrap it and put it aside for me would you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Has anyone gone for building a rifle using the opposite of the ideas that promote good accuracy and 'useability'?

    A springer with the strongest spring crammed into the action, which is slathered in thick grease.
    The weight should be reduced to the minumum, possibly a 'wire' Sten-gun type stock attached to the back block.
    Any trigger mechanism ought to be replaced with a single-piece trigger/sear arrangement.
    A leather piston washer soaked in diesel fuel.

    Have I missed anything out?
    It would certainly promote the need for consistent hold, perfect trigger technique and flawless follow through!

    Sounds a little like a Relum Telly with a skeleton stock.
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    A big stack of washers on the piston, a long stroke by shortening the piston, a transfer port drilled out to 6mm, except for the last tenth of an inch which is reduced to 1.5 mm and threaded M2. Take out the spring guide and cut the ends off the spring so they are nice and sharp.

    Need some NATO bullet pellets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Beard View Post
    A big stack of washers on the piston, a long stroke by shortening the piston, a transfer port drilled out to 6mm, except for the last tenth of an inch which is reduced to 1.5 mm and threaded M2. Take out the spring guide and cut the ends off the spring so they are nice and sharp.

    Need some NATO bullet pellets.
    Ah, the transfer port trick! I forgot that. It makes the rifle more powerful by increasing piston slam to jaw-breaking proportions. The fact that the power is not transmitted to the pellet is irrelevant, it is the 'kicks like a Mk V Enfield .303 with hot AP machine-gun ammo in it' feel that is important.

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    I think you're going too far. The Venom Mamba is anti-tuned (a 77 super-carbine with a huge 100mm of stroke) - and it goes off like a rimfire shooting HV loads.

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    I thought these tunes were already on offer if you are willing to pay and or wait for them. Snappy with a horrible firing cycle via vmach and packed full of grease via SFS lol.

    Sorry tin hat at the ready and waiting for the grief.

    Pete

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    Don't forget the all important youtube video complete with shakey hands, lots of 'erms' and finally dropping it on the floor after dry firing it a couple of times......and they aren't ALL made by Tony Wall....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Has anyone gone for building a rifle using the opposite of the ideas that promote good accuracy and 'useability'?

    A springer with the strongest spring crammed into the action, which is slathered in thick grease.
    The weight should be reduced to the minumum, possibly a 'wire' Sten-gun type stock attached to the back block.
    Any trigger mechanism ought to be replaced with a single-piece trigger/sear arrangement.
    A leather piston washer soaked in diesel fuel.

    Have I missed anything out?
    Just ask our American friends with their 20 ft.lbs+ springers. They don't seem to be suffering from lack of accuracy or frequent missing of their targets. Human being is a marvelous learning and adapting machine and will learn to respond accordingly to handling a powerful gun.
    I think this tunning obsession is rather a British thing due to the very low power limit of our guns and our quite high and at times unrealistic expectations of a sub 12 airrifle.

    A.G

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinbum View Post
    Yes: HW35 stamped into the action.
    Lol Nick..PMSL...

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