Were they ?Originally Posted by TORNADOS7
Over sprung at 10.5 in 22, shit trigger, terrible quality stock bolts that had a habit of snapping ....
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Were they ?
Over sprung at 10.5 in 22, shit trigger, terrible quality stock bolts that had a habit of snapping ....
Looking for TO-6 Trigger unit unmessed with or T0-6 kit for 34
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I said earlier the Lightning was an elegant gun, my mixup i meant the mercury, the trigger block was a nice touch i thought. Also if i remember the muzzle was finished off different to other makers, did they have any faults? they looked well made.
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Not fair.
You failed to mention the wobbly barrels and dodgy safely catches!
Even better looking than a HW35
I'd say get yourself a mk3/4 Mercury or a Challenger (if you can find one at a decent price) and get it tuned, they are lovely rifles to shoot after a fettle, not many break barrels can touch it on looks either.
Pete
Far too many rifles to list now, all mainly British but the odd pesky foreigner has snuck in
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thats for sure my recently aquired challenger has pushed even my HW99s down to second favorite springer to pick up & have a plink with & I really was surprised by this!
Even better looking than a HW35
That's good to hear, can you repost this very comment onto every new HW99 thread that turns up please, that'll piss off TonyL
Pete
Far too many rifles to list now, all mainly British but the odd pesky foreigner has snuck in
Zebedee
Pee me off? Not at all, Pete.That's good to hear, can you repost this very comment onto every new HW99 thread that turns up please, that'll piss off TonyL
Pete
Every one to their own and all that.
Mine's a 99 though.Or a 95, 80, 77, 97, 98, 35, 30 etc etc!
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You must have got a bad'n then cos mine was spot on, yeah the trigger wasn't the best out there but perfectly usable all the same and the rifle shot spot on accuracy wise, plenty of poke for rooks and general airgun quarry...
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My old Mercury S was possibly the best ever BSA springer....far better than the Supersport/Lightning variations that followed it, which were over sprung and had slightly rougher triggers and occasionally dodgy safety catches.
Also the traditional elegance that was all Airsporter/Mercury gone forever after the mark.
It had a pivot bolt and no horrible plastic scope mount fitted to many of the models that followed it...also lacked the raised trigger block/arrestor ....more elegant than the later Challenger for it.
It edged out all my earlier Airsporter specimens incl. the later S version in accuracy terms.
It was walnut stocked with not so clever pressed chequering which i decided to sand out.
Loved the gun and wished i hadnt sold it.
I have found that my HW95 SFS tuned edges it though .....a HW of this time outclasses the BSA offerings from yesterday or today.....dont let anyone tell you different....its cobblers...even if we do view the old BSFs with rosey tinted specs....these were not as good IMO.
Feinwerkbau Sport.....now theres a topic !
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I've owned several BSA's including Airsporter RB2 .22 and Mercury Challenger .22 Mercury S .177. Lovely to look at, well balanced, good build quality and make 12ftlb comfortably(.22). The triggers are described as very agricultural at best, and as a consequence render the rifle's inaccurate. My .22 HW77k will hit 1/2" spinners and similar size groups at 30 metres regularly.
The 1990's BSA's on the other hand will struggle to even get close to Weihrauch or Diana accuracy and so are better suited to 1 1/2" spinners and groups at 30 metres. However, my .177 AA TX200SR and Pro Sport will hit 10mm groups at 30 metres supported which goes to show that you don't need a German spring piston rifle for accurate shooting.
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Every airsporter/mercury i've shot or owned has had poor feeling triggers, usually due to some berk winding in the adjuster screw till it locks(which makes the let off heavier) However they've all been perfectly adequate after adjusting & none needed tuning unlike every lightning i've had through my hands. The barrels could be a bit hit & miss in quality in bsa's of late 80's early 90's though especially in lightnings. My current challenger barrel matches my 50s hw for accuracy easily & to my surprise shoots most pellets very well indeed.
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The barrel was fine, it was the sweep, build, trigger and quality of materials I had issues with
Looking for TO-6 Trigger unit unmessed with or T0-6 kit for 34
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The HW's of the time beat the BSA in accuracy possibly because they weight 2KG more so soaked up the recoil!!
Great for paper punching or plinking but definitely need a sling for the field The HW were a pig to lug round all day, very accurate and well made but a pig never the less.
The BSA guns were lighter but less accurate (perhaps ?) . I have a Brum made BSA supersport. I only shoot out to 25 meters (hunt) and its as good as HW offerings for that and just as accurate , the safety is re settable and dosn't click loudly when released unlike the HW 's. It also diddnt eat the cylindfer when the cocking arm attacked it unlike my HW99s which did !
Recent HW offerings generally need a fettle to get the best accuracy out of them any way
Id say a old Super sports not too bad a gun
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BSA barrels can be good, can be bad. They can be put in correct way round, or back to front. If you are lucky you can even find some pcp's with re blued barrels where the original s/n appear to have ben filed off () 'from' factory ! Some in right way round, some not !
Springer wise imo:
Superstar - Good
Airsporter RB s Good
Late Mercury's Good
Others - pants, ranging from a bit ropey, to shite, some design floored (over sprung from scratch for 12ftlb), others just piss poor QC
I like BSA, I have several of their pcp's. They are extremely pellet fussy in 177, and sometimes 22 too -
I think that getting a designer to design them was a great move after the springers, pity they didn't follow the designs more accurately or find better manufacturing compromises sometimes though -
Looking for TO-6 Trigger unit unmessed with or T0-6 kit for 34
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