Airsoft power output

[bighit]

even a moderator is a controlled part of an airgun in Scotland .

Are sound moderators (silencers) covered?
Yes, you will need a licence to own or acquire a sound moderator for an air weapon.

For the purposes of subsection (1)(c), each of the following items is a relevant component part in relation to a lethal barrelled weapon or a prohibited weapon—
(a)
a barrel, chamber or cylinder,
(b)
a frame, body or receiver,
(c)
a breech block, bolt or other mechanism for containing the pressure of discharge at the rear of a chamber,
but only where the item is capable of being used as a part of a lethal barrelled weapon or a prohibited weapon.”

paul

[gingernut]

I suggest that all members of the BBS apply for a Firearms Licence on the basis that we wish to avoid imprisonment under convoluted legislation dating back 50 years.

We might then get an official reaction saying 'oh no we didn't mean that'!
To which we can respond ' Well what do you mean then'? Etc etc

[bighit]

I suggest that all members of the BBS apply for a Firearms Licence on the basis that we wish to avoid imprisonment under convoluted legislation dating back 50 years.

We might then get an official reaction saying 'oh no we didn't mean that'!
To which we can respond ' Well what do you mean then'? Etc etc

Can't put a sub 12ftlbs on a license ,if everyone applied for a license they would have to either get an FAC rated rifle from a dealer or private sale or ask if their fire arms office will allow their sub 12 ftlbs rifle to be unrated to FAC levels.

even though I have applied for a Scottish air weapon license it does not mean I can go above 12ftlbs with that licence..

[Airsporter1st]

I suggest that all members of the BBS apply for a Firearms Licence on the basis that we wish to avoid imprisonment under convoluted legislation dating back 50 years.

We might then get an official reaction saying 'oh no we didn't mean that'!
To which we can respond ' Well what do you mean then'? Etc etc

The answer is simpler than that - stay within the limits and don't do anything stupid and there is no need for concern.

[gingernut]

Which completely contradicts your warning about over 1.3 joules limit auto airsoft guns now being firearms!

[Airsporter1st]

Which completely contradicts your warning about 1.50 limit auto airsoft guns!

No - the limits have been changed by the new Act. 1.3 (not 1.5 as you have erroneously stated) joules full auto and 2.5 joules for the rest. Stay within those limits and don't do anything stupid and you'll be fine. No contradiction there.

[gingernut]

1 I corrected my post almost instantly.

2 I have to check an airsoft rifle I have which which may now be a firearm.

That's my point.

[gingernut]

And then if it is over presumably surrender it to a confused Policeman.

[gingernut]

Or apply for a licence.

[Airsporter1st]

1 I corrected my post almost instantly.

2 I have to check an airsoft rifle I have which which may now be a firearm.

That's my point.

And then if it is over presumably surrender it to a confused Policeman.

If its a full auto, you should check it.

If it is over, the last thing you should do is surrender it to a Policeman - that would be the 'stupid' I was referring to - because you are already in posession of a Section 5 firearm. Better to detune it youtself, or if you can't do that, destroy it.

If its not a full auto then if its over 2.5 joules, I believe it falls into existing airgun legislation, so does not become illegal unless it was over 12 ft-lbs, which would be a crazy (read impossible, I suspect) high MV for an airsoft gun. My understanding is that the over 2.5 joules bit would make it a problem if e.g. you wanted to use it for skirmishing. But that's my point - although I don't really understand the ramifications of exceeding the 2.5 limit, I don't have to if I stay under it.

[Jimny4x4]

....even mention BLOWPIPES as sold in toyshops in those nice bright kids colours- so as to make them look so different from BIG adult only ones - Section 3(1) amended Paragraph 67 (ii sub section 934 ) , and then turn over the page to ....

[eyebull]

The answer is simpler than that - stay within the limits and don't do anything stupid and there is no need for concern.

Oh, and constantly trawl airgun and airsoft forums for news that your previously completely legal airguns or airsoft guns (still available via mail order) are now SECTION 5 FIREARMS, because the police and home office sure as shit aren't shouting it from the rooftops. Same applies to the semi-auto airgun debacle.

How many people have now been criminialised at a stroke? To what purpose? And how many of them are aware?

You can't even hand these things in at the station in case some wet-behind-the-ears jobsworth wants to bang you up for 5 years - you have to bury it in the garden or throw it in a canal like it's a human head or a hard drive full of kiddie porn ffs.

It's a load of BOLLOCKS is what it is. Retroactive prohibition should be a cause for deep concern in the shooting community.

[Airsporter1st]

Oh, and constantly trawl airgun and airsoft forums for news that your previously completely legal airguns or airsoft guns (still available via mail order) are now SECTION 5 FIREARMS, because the police and home office sure as shit aren't shouting it from the rooftops. Same applies to the semi-auto airgun debacle.

How many people have now been criminialised at a stroke? To what purpose? And how many of them are aware?

You can't even hand these things in at the station in case some wet-behind-the-ears jobsworth wants to bang you up for 5 years - you have to bury it in the garden or throw it in a canal like it's a human head or a hard drive full of kiddie porn ffs.

It's a load of BOLLOCKS is what it is. Retroactive prohibition should be a cause for deep concern in the shooting community.

To be fair, no one gets spoon-fed the law. If you are interested in a hobby or sport, its up to you to familiarise yourself and keep up to date with the legislation pertaining thereto. Same with e.g. drones, motor sport, whatever. The impending new legislation was well aired in the Airsoft mags and no doubt on the forums too.

I agree 100% that retroactive prohibition is a cause for concern. You took my use of the word 'concern' completely out of context.

[eyebull]

To be fair, no one gets spoon-fed the law. If you are interested in a hobby or sport, its up to you to familiarise yourself and keep up to date with the legislation pertaining thereto. Same with e.g. drones, motor sport, whatever. The impending new legislation was well aired in the Airsoft mags and no doubt on the forums too.

I agree 100% that retroactive prohibition is a cause for concern. You took my use of the word 'concern' completely out of context.

My anger wasn't directed at you though looking back it can read that way.
Trouble is that not everyone who owns an airgun or airsoft gun is a Hobbyist in the sense of being plugged into the hobby media circus 24/7. Some people don't do internet. Some people just have 'an air rifle' in the cupboard and think no more of it for years at a time. It's those people who are most at risk from this legislation.