Using WD40 on air rifles.

[Airsporter1st]

For what it's worth I once experimented by leaving an O-ring soaking in WD40 for a month.
It had no discernible effect, and the o-ring sealed fine afterwards

How the 'O' ring fares depends entirely on what material its made from. There are 3 or 4 relatively common 'O' ring materials, of which at least one, ethylene propylene, will be 'eaten' by WD40.

The fact that you lucked upon one that was not affected, does not mean that all 'O'rings will be unaffected.

[Airsporter1st]

actually had a doctor tell us that it works for joint pains. It has a chemical that allows it to penetrate the skin. Has a long name, but it well know by it's anagram. I just can't remember the 4 letters.

rpca?

[madcarlos]

Read illegal, not to mention turning your 77's action into an internal combustion engine.

Yep! A real wise move.

First kit I ever bought instructed to put some drops of oil down the port hole, They did not recomend it the next kit I bought, Only ever followed the instructions, Not with wd40 of course, Was a long time ago, Maximiser kit,

[snock]

There's enough advice out there to tell you it's a bad idea.
Springers have grease to lubricate the action + piston head. Adding oil/WD40 does nothing except to upset the lubrication balance.

Why do you suppose they removed the advice from the kit?



You're ruining your rifle with a misplaced sense of goodwill. You're also risking being caught with an illegal rifle.


If you think there's good sense to carry on as you are, then it's your lookout.

[RapidTM1000]

i wouldnt use it......

Once the solvents evaporate, it leaves a sticky mess

[madcarlos]

There's enough advice out there to tell you it's a bad idea.
Springers have grease to lubricate the action + piston head. Adding oil/WD40 does nothing except to upset the lubrication balance.

Why do you suppose they removed the advice from the kit?



You're ruining your rifle with a misplaced sense of goodwill. You're also risking being caught with an illegal rifle.


If you think there's good sense to carry on as you are, then it's your lookout.

As said above, I used it for over 20 years with no problems, Have had the gun for over 30 years now, Did not use the gun for a good few years after and a couple years back fitted a kit with the lubes supplied, Really not sure why you on about me using a illegal gun, I know there's not much on tv but hey go for a jog or something if you want to release some stress,

[snock]

Really not sure why you on about me using a illegal gun, I know there's not much on tv but hey go for a jog or something if you want to release some stress,

Okay, try this. Smart arse.

WD40 will ignite under compression.
The effect air gunners call it is called 'dieseling'. Guess why? It's how a diesel engine works.
This ignition provides extra kinetic energy to the pellet, pushing it over 12ftlbs.

You have already alluded to this in your ''good few results over the skan'', so I think you already know it does. It's been known within the sport for years. You're just catching up on 30+ year old information. It's just as well you stopped using it.

Link 1
http://www.airgundepot.com/warning-warning-article.html

Here’s what happens with prolonged dieseling. The piston seal is a type of plastic or nylon. If you put a match to plastic what happens? It melts. Pretty simple. When an airgun is caused to diesel using things like Rem Oil, WD40, 3 in 1 oil, etc., it quickly deteriorates the seal. Once the seal goes, that leads to a whole new set of issues.

Link 2
http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....n-on-dieseling

Link 3
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/thread/1171773680

Link 4
http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/...ocking-results

Link 5
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/...?topic=65191.0

Never WD40, it will detonate or any oil

Are you seeing a pattern? No?

Link 6
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2005/...-and-the-ugly/

Avoid WD-40
Okay, them’s fightin’ words! Everybody likes WD-40 for the shine it puts on blued metal and for its pleasant aroma. Yes, that’s all true, but if you allow it to dry on things, it leaves a gummy film that can take weeks of hard work to remove. It has no place in airgunning.

Link 7
http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....highlight=wd40

Link 8
http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....highlight=wd40

Ask yourself this:did you think you knew something that many thousands of air gunners have known for decades, or that they're all wrong and you were right?

[bighit]

Okay, try this. Smart arse.

Ask yourself this:did you think you knew something that many thousands of air gunners have known for decades, or that they're all wrong and you were right?

all it needs is one pellet to go through your back stop or over your boundary and strike some one or their possessions.

chap at the door and its the police. gun taken away and tested. found to be over the limit and your charged with possession of an unlicensed firearm.


might sound over the top but theres always a first time.





do you want to be the test case ?

do you remember posting this ?

26-02-2015,03:42 PM
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Hi this is a a clip which i found , i know this chap if any good to anyone ,

DESPITE taking his air rifle to an expert for adjustment, a gun enthusiast found himself in the dock for having a firearm without a certificate.

Gerwyn Robert Davies, 38, of Bryntirion, Mountain Ash, had taken the air rifle for readjustment after suspecting it was overpowered.

He collected it and believed it was under the legal limit but when police discovered it in the boot of his car, investigation revealed it was still over powered.

Matthew Cobbe, prosecuting at Merthyr Tydfil Crown Court, said the discovery of the rifle came against a background of a text message threat sent by Davies.

When they searched his car, they found the rifle and a knife.

Davies, who has no previous convictions, admitted possessing a firearm without a certificate and possessing a knife.

The PS600 rifle had been given to Davies 10 years ago by his now deceased grandparents and he asked for the rifle not to be forfeited and destroyed because of its sentimental value.

Recorder John Philpotts jailed Davies for six months, suspended for 18 months and ordered him to carry out 100 hours of unpaid work. He was also ordered to pay PS250 costs and given 56 days to arrange for the gun to be legalised. The knife was ordered to be destroyed.


the clip is from wales online , just type the name and it should come up, the gun was returned to him very quick, another mate of mine had his hw90 seized and was taken to court for being fac or over powered even tho the gun was at 10.4 ft lbs was he using wd40 in it when it was first tested , the gun was ordered back to him and charges got thrown out of swansea crown court, gun was tested and yes defo under limit, it took him over a year to get gun back ,

every case is different , there is no answer



that could be you if your unlucky to be caught

[madcarlos]

Okay, try this. Smart arse.

WD40 will ignite under compression.
The effect air gunners call it is called 'dieseling'. Guess why? It's how a diesel engine works.
This ignition provides extra kinetic energy to the pellet, pushing it over 12ftlbs.

You have already alluded to this in your ''good few results over the skan'', so I think you already know it does. It's been known within the sport for years. You're just catching up on 30+ year old information. It's just as well you stopped using it.

Link 1
http://www.airgundepot.com/warning-warning-article.html


Link 2
http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....n-on-dieseling

Link 3
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/thread/1171773680

Link 4
http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/...ocking-results

Link 5
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/...?topic=65191.0


Are you seeing a pattern? No?

Link 6
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2005/...-and-the-ugly/


Link 7
http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....highlight=wd40

Link 8
http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....highlight=wd40

Ask yourself this:did you think you knew something that many thousands of air gunners have known for decades, or that they're all wrong and you were right?

Don't use it any more as it's getting a bit expensive, Most Probs be cheaper buying some diesel.

[lensman57]

For all that matters the main ingredient in WD 40 is apparently Fish Oil. Make of it what you may.

A.G

[Airsporter1st]

For all that matters the main ingredient in WD 40 is apparently Fish Oil. Make of it what you may.

A.G

This is copied directly from WD 40's own web site - no third party input:ns

Myth:WD-40® contains fish oil.

Fact: Consumers have told us over the years that they have caught some of the biggest fish ever after protecting their fish hooks and lures with WD-40®. We believe this legend came from folks assuming that the product must contain fish oil since it appears to attract fish. Sorry Charlie®, it just ain’t so. came from folks assuming the product must contain fish oil since it appears to attract fish. Sorry Charlie®, it just ain’t so.

[bighit]

This is copied directly from WD 40's own web site - no third party input:ns

Myth:WD-40® contains fish oil.

Fact: Consumers have told us over the years that they have caught some of the biggest fish ever after protecting their fish hooks and lures with WD-40®. We believe this legend came from folks assuming that the product must contain fish oil since it appears to attract fish. Sorry Charlie®, it just ain’t so. came from folks assuming the product must contain fish oil since it appears to attract fish. Sorry Charlie®, it just ain’t so.

its also been posted on every wd40 thread yet the same mistruths keep being posted. same with the name . War Department 40. nope Water Displacement 40th attempt. again its on their website.

[BigEars]

its also been posted on every wd40 thread yet the same mistruths keep being posted. same with the name . War Department 40. nope Water Displacement 40th attempt. again its on their website.

Some "facts" are zombies, no matter how often they're disproved, the rise again and lurch onwards looking for new victims.

[madcarlos]

Must say over the years I have found that it's not much good for locks, Seems great at first but then the insides seem to fall apart, My mk1 fiesta was using more of this stuff than petrol in the damp mornings,

[Airsporter1st]

Must say over the years I have found that it's not much good for locks, Seems great at first but then the insides seem to fall apart, My mk1 fiesta was using more of this stuff than petrol in the damp mornings,

Its absolutely fine for cleaning and dispersing moisture from locks, (unless they contain plastic parts or seals which may be adversely affected).

However, after cleaning and drying, they need to be lubricated with a suitable lubricant.