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    Pre-war airguns with safeties?

    I was in a discussion on another forum about vintage airguns without safeties. I am new to the hobby but were there prewar vintage airguns with safeties? The only one I have in my collection is the Haenel 28-R. I assume there are others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    I was in a discussion on another forum about vintage airguns without safeties. I am new to the hobby but were there prewar vintage airguns with safeties? The only one I have in my collection is the Haenel 28-R. I assume there are others?
    MGR, rifles early 1900s 2 types spring to mind. pardon the pun.

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    Interesting question ... did you, or any other person watch a recent episode of 'The Durrells'? The son, not the author one, the one always going off with his air rifle, accidentally fired a shot when he should not have done so. He blamed 'the safety' on the rifle ... but it looked like an early BSA from the 1930s ... I did not think the rifles then had safety catches. Or did some ...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    I was in a discussion on another forum about vintage airguns without safeties. I am new to the hobby but were there prewar vintage airguns with safeties? The only one I have in my collection is the Haenel 28-R. I assume there are others?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Russell View Post
    Interesting question ... did you, or any other person watch a recent episode of 'The Durrells'? The son, not the author one, the one always going off with his air rifle, accidentally fired a shot when he should not have done so. He blamed 'the safety' on the rifle ... but it looked like an early BSA from the 1930s ... I did not think the rifles then had safety catches. Or did some ...?
    Cheers, Phil
    Not to my knowledge did any of the BSAs, Phil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Russell View Post
    Interesting question ... did you, or any other person watch a recent episode of 'The Durrells'? The son, not the author one, the one always going off with his air rifle, accidentally fired a shot when he should not have done so. He blamed 'the safety' on the rifle ... but it looked like an early BSA from the 1930s ... I did not think the rifles then had safety catches. Or did some ...?
    Cheers, Phil
    Hi Phill,

    It was a 1929 BSA No1 Standard. I've handled the prop used in the production and it was a nice example, which shoots well. I hope to picture it in my AGW column in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garvin View Post
    Not to my knowledge did any of the BSAs, Phil.
    I think they had a Patent pending on a design of satety catch (shotgun style on the trigger block) but I thing the outbreak of war possibly prevented them from putting it into production.

    Lakey

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    German/Czech pre-war military trainers pretty much all had safety switches to mimic the firearm counterpart. For the American side, Benjamin rifles & pistols had safeties from sometime in the 30's.

    Don R.

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    One of possibly the earliest, simplest and most ingenious safety catches was that designed by Frank Clarke for his last version Titan pistol, circa 1923. The safety was automatically applied once the gun was cocked and was released by squeezing the grip while taking aim. Yes, the Titans were rather primitive guns, but you have to admit that a safety that needed no knobs to turn or buttons to press and just did the job without any involvement on the part of the shooter was pretty clever.

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    Diana Model 30 and I think the very rare Model 54 ( memory gone ), the one that looks like a big Webley mk3

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    Webley Mark one rifle
    The pics of mine show one
    Not the easiest to use as you have to turn it but amasing that it was in place 100 years ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    I was in a discussion on another forum about vintage airguns without safeties. I am new to the hobby but were there prewar vintage airguns with safeties? The only one I have in my collection is the Haenel 28-R. I assume there are others?

    A version of the Ansonia had a brass thumb button safety at the back of the trigger block. They were made by MGR before the first world war. 1914-18 for us limeys.

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