Belguim made copy of a Colt 1849 Pocket Revolver

[Fronteria]

Liege copy of a Colt 1849 pocket revolver .35 calibre in rough condition all the screws are poor and incorrect replacements some are missing, the bore is rusted and appears to be smooth bore but I can't be certain until it's been cleaned of the rust but it's not looking good.
The hand and spring and cylinder bolt and spring are also missing.
The cylinder ratchet where the hand turns the cylinder is badly worn and the cylinder has excessive end float of around 150 thou.
The base pin (cylinder pin) is badly worn and cylinder bore is worn, the nipples are badly rusted and one is broken off.
It has Liege proof marks for manufactured between 1811 to 1892 it was probably made around 1860.
The poor quality engraving is badly worn on cylinder and completely taken off the barrel by an abrasive at sometime.
I can't put a photograph up as it's in bits.
Is it worth repairing?
If so what is it worth in the condition it is now?

[loiner1965]

i would say a non starter to be honest

[tacfoley]

Liege copy of a Colt 1849 pocket revolver .35 calibre in rough condition all the screws are poor and incorrect replacements some are missing, the bore is rusted and appears to be smooth bore but I can't be certain until it's been cleaned of the rust but it's not looking good.
The hand and spring and cylinder bolt and spring are also missing.
The cylinder ratchet where the hand turns the cylinder is badly worn and the cylinder has excessive end float of around 150 thou.
The base pin (cylinder pin) is badly worn and cylinder bore is worn, the nipples are badly rusted and one is broken off.
It has Liege proof marks for manufactured between 1811 to 1892 it was probably made around 1860.
The poor quality engraving is badly worn on cylinder and completely taken off the barrel by an abrasive at sometime.
I can't put a photograph up as it's in bits.
Is it worth repairing?
If so what is it worth in the condition it is now?

TBH, the total absence of all the bits would sound like an improvement in this case.

tac

[Fronteria]

TBH, the total absence of all the bits would sound like an improvement in this case.

tac

You are probably right Tac but I like a challenge so I am thinking of having a shot at repairing it even if it takes more effort than it's worth.

[TA6319]

shame about the pictures as I would have been interested to see it

[Fronteria]

shame about the pictures as I would have been interested to see it

Hi. TA6319
I have got rid of most of the rust and just pushed the major components together without any screws to assembled it.
Pictures here in my percussion pinfire section : https://www.flickr.com/photos/fronte...57625478739916
I have just noticed I need to update this section as a quite a few rimfire and pinfire purchases have not been added recently.
You can't live far from me?

[TA6319]

Hi. TA6319
I have got rid of most of the rust and just pushed the major components together without any screws to assembled it.
Pictures here in my percussion pinfire section : https://www.flickr.com/photos/fronte...57625478739916
I have just noticed I need to update this section as a quite a few rimfire and pinfire purchases have not been added recently.
You can't live far from me?

That looks like a nice little pistol, well worth the effort.
You have a nice collection.
I have restored a few Nepalese long arms and really enjoyed doing it.
PM sent

[enfield2band]

You are probably right Tac but I like a challenge so I am thinking of having a shot at repairing it even if it takes more effort than it's worth.

You have nothing to lose by cleaning it up even if you only end up with a curio.

I was given an Albini Braendlin rifle circa approx 1855. http://www.militaryrifles.com/belgium/Albini.htm
It looked like a lump of rust with a lump of wood stuck to it.
It had been stood behind a shed for decades and the inside of the barrel was solid with rust. I had to chip it out with a sharp piece of bar. needless to say the bore was useless.
The back sight had been snapped off and the forend had a lump missing off the end and the muzzle barrel band was missing. The bar that connected to the hammer that hit the firing pin was snapped and the knob that was used to open the breech was snapped off.
I managed to free up the parts and get it cleaned up a bit and steamed the dents out of the butt. Now it looks like a gun that has had a hard life.

It was worth the trouble I think even though it is worth naff all.

[Benelli B76]

Liege copy of a Colt 1849 pocket revolver .35 calibre in rough condition all the screws are poor and incorrect replacements some are missing, the bore is rusted and appears to be smooth bore but I can't be certain until it's been cleaned of the rust but it's not looking good.
The hand and spring and cylinder bolt and spring are also missing.
The cylinder ratchet where the hand turns the cylinder is badly worn and the cylinder has excessive end float of around 150 thou.
The base pin (cylinder pin) is badly worn and cylinder bore is worn, the nipples are badly rusted and one is broken off.
It has Liege proof marks for manufactured between 1811 to 1892 it was probably made around 1860.
The poor quality engraving is badly worn on cylinder and completely taken off the barrel by an abrasive at sometime.
I can't put a photograph up as it's in bits.
Is it worth repairing?
If so what is it worth in the condition it is now?

If it is a copy of the Colt 1849 pocket pistol it should be .31 calibre. I have a lovely Colt version in wooden case with accessories. If the design is the same you can still get all the parts. I have screws, hammer spring, cylinder lock, trigger spring etc. You can get them from Peter Dyson https://www.peterdyson.co.uk/. He will probably advise if parts are interchangeable. The Colts go for £600 - £2000 depending on condition. The Belgian ones less. Was tempted to buy a second one at the Kempton Park show last Sunday, nice one £800.


Baz

[Benelli B76]

The cylinder is engraved (probably rolled with a die) all the way round with the scene of an attempted stagecoach robbery which is being thwarted by a passenger obviously armed with a Colt revolver. See pic...

Baz

http://i.imgur.com/xQQwe9a.jpg