Charlie de tuna triggers.

[look no hands]

Hi all,

Are charlie de tuna GRT-III triggers just an expensive single stage trigger system, just fitted one to my Brocock Indy and it's basically turned the trigger into a creepy single stager with no positive stop or let off, I've just spent the last hour adjusting both adjuster screws to no avail, oh well that's nearly £40 wasted (£6 of that in postage from B.A.R.).

The original trigger is far better.

Pete

[piggy589]

The independent has arguably the worst trigger of any gun I've ever shot.

How could an aftermarket kit possibly make it worse?.

[TonyL]

Sorry to hear this, Pete.

Just wondering if there might be something you've missed?

Any on-line tutorials out there? Or worth talking with BAR or Welsh Willy?

[look no hands]

Sorry to hear this, Pete.

Just wondering if there might be something you've missed?

Any on-line tutorials out there? Or worth talking with BAR or Welsh Willy?

I've been studying the Charlie de tuna website about adjustment and it basically says,

"Keep in mind that the second stage is not a hard stop but rather a slight change in resistance and more of a roll over much like many match triggers. Depending on the trigger and the internal springs, the feel will be more predominant in some guns and lighter in others. This cannot be changed without modifying the internal trigger springs and that is not recommended."

So basically it's not much better than a standard Gamo setup, apart from it being alloy, gold and expensive, I'm used to (and I'm sure you are as well) a standard two stage set up like found on most rifles nowadays, a positive stop and a nice let off (very much like Rekord and CD triggers) not a "roll over" type like whats found on match rifles (not that I've ever seen that type on match rifles I used when I was younger), I've just noticed that I've just bought the last one from BAR and it's now discontinued, I can see why now, I don't think I can really ask Welsh willy for advice considering it's not his trigger or problem.

Pete

[AC all day]

Thats proberbly why i still have a box of around 20 of the bloody units...

[barrel]

I was going to fit a Charlie de Tuna unit to a CFX I have its got me wondering now.

Kindest regards

Barrel

[look no hands]

The independent has arguably the worst trigger of any gun I've ever shot.

How could an aftermarket kit possibly make it worse?.

Strangely enough the trigger on mine is pretty good but like you say I've shot a few Gamo's in the past and the triggers have been pretty dire, I suppose I've been pretty lucky with this one.

Pete

[Hsing-ee]

Hi all,

Are charlie de tuna GRT-III triggers just an expensive single stage trigger system, just fitted one to my Brocock Indy and it's basically turned the trigger into a creepy single stager with no positive stop or let off, I've just spent the last hour adjusting both adjuster screws to no avail, oh well that's nearly £40 wasted (£6 of that in postage from B.A.R.).

The original trigger is far better.

Pete

Charlie de Tuna triggers are dry and a bit unpalatable. Try sloshing some mayonnaise on it. (or Hot Sauce reel lube).

[maximus]

Hi all,

Are charlie de tuna GRT-III triggers just an expensive single stage trigger system, just fitted one to my Brocock Indy and it's basically turned the trigger into a creepy single stager with no positive stop or let off, I've just spent the last hour adjusting both adjuster screws to no avail, oh well that's nearly £40 wasted (£6 of that in postage from B.A.R.).

The original trigger is far better.

Pete

Hi Pete, I fitted one to my mk1 Rapid and few years ago and can confirm that the GRT trigger converts the gamo unit on the rapid to a genuine two stage trigger. While I was at it I polished all the sears which resulted in a very good trigger indeed. If the GRT for the Rifle you have has two adjusting screws in the blade then I would expect a two stage release to be possible. The adjustment of the screws is very subtle though. Basically the screw furthest from the pivot comes into contact with the sear second to provide the second stage feel so to get rid of creep on the second stage the adjustment has to be spot on. If the other screw is too far in the second screw won't contact the sear prior to release and you won't feel a second stage. Hope this helps. Max

[look no hands]

Hi Pete, I fitted one to my mk1 Rapid and few years ago and can confirm that the GRT trigger converts the gamo unit on the rapid to a genuine two stage trigger. While I was at it I polished all the sears which resulted in a very good trigger indeed. If the GRT for the Rifle you have has two adjusting screws in the blade then I would expect a two stage release to be possible. The adjustment of the screws is very subtle though. Basically the screw furthest from the pivot comes into contact with the sear second to provide the second stage feel so to get rid of creep on the second stage the adjustment has to be spot on. If the other screw is too far in the second screw won't contact the sear prior to release and you won't feel a second stage. Hope this helps. Max

Thanks for the advice Max but I'm not even going to bother trying again as I spent ages just turning the rear screw about quarter of a turn at a time and retesting to no avail, I may have a go at polishing the sear contact area and see if that is any improvement.

Pete

[maximus]

OK Pete, no problem but one last thing that may be causing the problem is that if the front screw is too far in. If so it will be the only one in contact with the sear causing the trigger to feel like a creepy single stager. Again adjustments are subtle. Good luck with it! regards Max