Low powered springers.

[Arthur John Smithsplease]

Love em. Air pistols and lightweight 6 fpe rifles which you can shoot in your garden, or even inside your house.

No need to go to a range or join a club.

I love going to the range but mainly for the human contact and talking about our hobby with like minded people.

6 fpe ers are the only ones most Germans can get.

And they still buy them.

Watched a German bloke's video on his favourite rifle - the HW35. Received wisdom suggests it should be short stroked at German power levels, but he is delighted with his running at 9 joules.

In fact all the Weihrauchs in Germany run at that power. And still the Germans buy them.

If you don't hunt or do FT or HFT, is there really any need for a 12 fpe air rifle?

[Drew451]

I totally agree. A 6ft/lb rifle, a pellet catcher and some 6yd/10m targets brings a new dimension to your shooting. Home or garden- it's good fun.

[TonyL]

Must agree.

Most of my shooting is done at home, either down the (small) garden or hallway.

Whilst it's perfectly safe to use my 11+FT.lbs rifles with a safe backstop, you somehow feel over gunned. Although I always get a short range zero there first.

The rifles I enjoy most at short range are my HW30Ss, Diana 24D and one of my 35s. This particular 35 is a tired looking old war dog which I bought for £30 years ago. Internals are V-Mach spring and guide set and synthetic seal. Power is about 6.5, which does not worry me. Maybe a leaky breech? Not quite sure and don't really care. I did ask Steve for a lower power spring; not sure if it is. But the thing shoots so sweetly, it's lovely.

All on open sights and the 30Ss and 24D have such light cocking effort you could shoot them all day long.

Enjoy all my pistols at home, too.

[Drew451]

If you dont mind me asking: which is nicer- the 24D or HW30s?
I think a 24 with the ball sear would be very nice.

[TonyL]

Honestly, Drew, they're both so nice that I'd hate to have to choose.

Firing cycles are excellent on the pair of them.

Getting the second stage crisp took a little juggling 'twixt the two adjuster screws on the T01 trigger. BarryG posted a trigger diagram and instructions. A few minutes twiddling made it very nice.

The 24D was a bargain.....£69 from a RFD three or four years ago and nigh-on as new.

P.S. Will have a back to back play with them as soon as I get the chance and report back.

[TORNADOS7]

Quite agree, a 6fpe rifle is more than enough for medium range plinking/target work...

[Arthur John Smithsplease]

Tony, how does the 30s in 22 compare to the 177 version?

I imagine they use the same spring.

I have been thinking about getting a second one in 22 with open sights, putting on a peep sight and shooting at 10m.

I know people generally prefer 177 for paper, but I fancy trying 22.

I have a JSR Sabre Optic 2-7x32 AO on my 177 30s Kit.

[Drew451]

Honestly, Drew, they're both so nice that I'd hate to have to choose.

Firing cycles are excellent on the pair of them.

Getting the second stage crisp took a little juggling 'twixt the two adjuster screws on the T01 trigger. BarryG posted a trigger diagram and instructions. A few minutes twiddling made it very nice.

The 24D was a bargain.....£69 from a RFD three or four years ago and nigh-on as new.

P.S. Will have a back to back play with them as soon as I get the chance and report back.

Thanks for that Tony. Quite a bargain. I had a feeling the 24D would be very nice indeed. They just don't get the press.
Coincidently, in just posted about 24's in the collectors section.
I agree that the ball sear trigger can be dialled in nicely. It's also possible to get a very long and unpredictable single stage trigger that's not my cup of tea at all.