I ordered some of these from ramsbottem at the weekend they arrived today WELL packed and the 7.9s come in a large good tin so if there crap at least i have a good tin the magnum 8.2 come in a small crap tin the 7.9s weigh in at 8.10 to 8.20 and the 8.2 come in at 8.40 to 8.60 they are well lubed and very little damage the skirts on the magnums are thin with wide bottoms they dont look like any pellets i have ever seen i hope to bench rest and shoot some this week .