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The co2 was the problem. It's on the prohibited list.
As far as I remember there is only one firearm educated guy in the Belfast hub and if he is not there they no doubt keep them till he is on shift. Maybe some one got destruction happy and sent it to be destroyed.
It was not posted within the regulations due to the c02 . So it's the senders fault. He did not research the rulings.
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It must have been the co2. I never thought to ask him or advise him on what service to use. His responsibility, however having said that I will now ALWAYS make sure they use PF 48.
How about airsoft with gas magazines? would they be liable the same as the mag is pressurised? even if empty?
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It's pressurised vessels. If sending anything like that it's going to be difficult. Some say only safe way is by an RFD. they will have a different account to the public but even then they may have difficulty in sending some items. I tried to get an RFD to send a dive tank for me. Only one could do it. The same carrier that the dive bottle company use may not take a dive bottle from an RFD as it's a different account that the dive bottle company use.Originally Posted by schony
From what I have seen on here .you send it as "ground delivery only.no flying" but a pressure vessel ? I'm not sure.
You will only get people "own views" on here but some on here know the score. Angry bear and logunner are the two I trust among a few others to have the right advice on here. One being an ex royal mail worker that helped people "find" lost items for members on here.
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Another oddity is Li-on batteries
you must declare & a sticker is affixed to the package, the odd bit is
UK - batteries must be installed in the item
Overseas - batteries removed from item but ok in the package
I also sold 2 DS mags to America on , sent via the postal system. package intercepted & presumably destroyed, the buyer was refunded & i got to keep the money too
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What logic is there in diverting a "pressure vessel" on a journey further to another destination than it was addressed to go, for checking and "destruction". Longer journey and destruction more risk than just delivering it to the owner. What are the statistics of people who have been blown up with a 12 grm CO2 capsule ?
A lot of rules are made up by people with little knowledge of the subject matter.
Baz
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End of the day it's them that sets the rules. Don't like their rules go elsewhere but then there is no where else to go unless you find a specific courier .
As I said above. The same courier that delivered dive tanks to my local RFD would not lift mine from there to go down south. Different account types. They did find one but it was going to be £40 just for the tank. Buyer was not willing to pay that for a free due tank.
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Your statement on "knowledge of the subject matter" confirms how little knowledge you have of the subject matter.
A large percentage of RM goes by aircraft, aviation rules do not allow pressurised containers. The journey to Belfast is by Sea so low risk... Also to be considered is the mechanical handling and sortation equipment used in processing the mail, again a risk if a pressurised item becomes trapped.
Feel free to correct me if your knowledge on this is greater than mine..
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So why was the pistol destroyed (kept by postie more like) if it was the co2 which was the problem?
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How are traders cylinders allowed then when Joe Public`s arnt
http://www./itm/Bike-CO2-pump-cycle-...EAAOSwa~BYPGrI
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FREE POSTAGE covers only UK MAINLAND
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Ok. Pressurised containers are allowed on board.
I've done about a dozen trips, long and short haul with them ones at way higher pressures than co2. Every flight carries them, they're part of the on board equipment in many varieties from medical to the simple co2 capsules which inflate your life jackets under most people's seats when they pull that little string.
I'm sure RM ban them from flights. They're not banned from flights.
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...N_PHG_ALWAYSON
I suspect RM ban them like they ban everything else because they don't have the expertise to determine safety without inspection and jump for the lowest common denominator. Understandable but let's not say it's not possible because it is. All sorts of things can be flown, some need more paperwork, some don't.
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I know a little bit about aviation, having worked as an aircraft detail fitter converting the Victor bombers to tankers at Radlett and also on the BAC 111 at Luton airport. There are a lot of pressurised containers containers on aircraft as mentioned by Rob. I believe these items were posted by second class mail which is not likely to fly anyway. I know it is the Royal Mail rules, and we have to abide by them if we want to use he service, but what I was saying is have the people who make the rules actually using realistic facts. Since coming back to live in U.K. I was surprised how much the place has tied itself up with health and safety rules which are just a thin veneer for appearances only, and not very effective in actual life.
Some of them are in fact a joke.
Baz
BE AN INDEPENDENT THINKER, DON'T FOLLOW THE CROWD
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I have it on excellent account of a senior RM manager that all of Britains mail delivery is now by road and ferry. They only fly the post over seas, naturally. That's not to say that RM don't X ray boxes routinely especially if the sender has said either the wrong thing or too much at the post office.
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