Suggestions for "practical" Co2 pistol

[eyebull]

At our club we do I.P.A.S
We do not allow bb's of any sort due to ricochets .

We did find that with black gas/CO2 and plastic BB's, the BB's shattered on impact so ricochets were not an issue. It may depend on your plate set up though.

Most of all , enjoy it !

Hear hear. IPAS and Practical is probably the most fun I've had airgunning. Unfortunately I have very little time to shoot these days and no longer have a vehicle.
I really, really miss it

[Barison82]

We did find that with black gas/CO2 and plastic BB's, the BB's shattered on impact so ricochets were not an issue. It may depend on your plate set up though.




Hear hear. IPAS and Practical is probably the most fun I've had airgunning. Unfortunately I have very little time to shoot these days and no longer have a vehicle.
I really, really miss it

Yes I thought that there are ways to minimise/stop ricochets with BBs. I was curious about the Webley Copper BBs and how effective they are in this regard for 4.5mm, and if they are suitable at all for use in Umarex air pistols. Big shame that you are not as involved with IPAS as you'd like to be. Not having a car is a big barrier in this sport. I'm in London and probably quite fortunate as there seems to be quite a few clubs within easy travelling distance by public transport, however I'm struggling to find one that offers IPAS. The airsoft range in Camden is looking like my best bet at the moment.

[Alakar]

Hi,
I'm a bit far away from you I think .
We are in Blackburn Lancashire.
We had a fun shoot this morning and included I.P.A.S
The quickest time was 3.13 seconds for 5 plates !

[Gareth W-B]

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As someone who used to do Practical Mini Rifle with a banana mag fed Ruger 10/22 sat in a synthetic Heckler & Koch styled stock, imho, the best gun for Co2 Mini Gun would be the Umarex MPK-PDW or the Sig Sauser MCX / MPX.

[Barison82]

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As someone who used to do Practical Mini Rifle with a banana mag fed Ruger 10/22 sat in a synthetic Heckler & Koch styled stock, imho, the best gun for Co2 Mini Gun would be the Umarex MPK-PDW or the Sig Sauser MCX / MPX.

Interesting. Maybe I should try and open my mind to other options, but for some reason I can't look past the 1911 design. I just love it so much, but I know that as an airgun replica it is probably not the best thing to have for IPSC/IPAS.

[Arthur John Smithsplease]

Another vote for the CZ 75 P09 Duty. Looks good and has a reputation for reliability.

As far as the Sigs go, both the P226 and 320 - with it's unnecessarily complicated loading system - have been a disappointment to some. I have a feeling that the P250, which came out at the same time as the P226 and had the same pellet magazine, and has now been discontinued, was a better performer. People didn't seem to like it because it had a plastic lower. Funny that they have been buying the 320 which also has a plastic lower, lousy pellet feed and is far more expensive.

I really don't know why people have a thing about the use of plastic in guns. More and more firearms are being made with plastic lowers these days. And there is a reason. They are extremely strong, wear better than metal, are light and scratch resistant, and can be turned out in a variety of colours. And remember that the metal used in gas?CO2 bb guns is often just poorly painted pot metal.

There is a reason the Glock is the most widely used gun by police forces in America. After the success of the Glock numerous companies started to make their own plastic guns. I used to own firearms several years ago, when I lived abroad - all but one were metal eg. CZ75, but guess which one I shot most? My Glock.

Eventually I believe all guns will be made with plastic frames.

[Alakar]

For anyone doing I.P.A.S
We use an iPhone app called Surefire shot timer.
Adjust the sensitivity , delay the start and it's excellent .

[Barison82]

Another vote for the CZ 75 P09 Duty. Looks good and has a reputation for reliability.

As far as the Sigs go, both the P226 and 320 - with it's unnecessarily complicated loading system - have been a disappointment to some. I have a feeling that the P250, which came out at the same time as the P226 and had the same pellet magazine, and has now been discontinued, was a better performer. People didn't seem to like it because it had a plastic lower. Funny that they have been buying the 320 which also has a plastic lower, lousy pellet feed and is far more expensive.

I really don't know why people have a thing about the use of plastic in guns. More and more firearms are being made with plastic lowers these days. And there is a reason. They are extremely strong, wear better than metal, are light and scratch resistant, and can be turned out in a variety of colours. And remember that the metal used in gas?CO2 bb guns is often just poorly painted pot metal.

There is a reason the Glock is the most widely used gun by police forces in America. After the success of the Glock numerous companies started to make their own plastic guns. I used to own firearms several years ago, when I lived abroad - all were metal eg. CZ75, but guess which one I shot most? My Glock.

Eventually I believe all guns will be made with plastic frames.

I agree with your point regarding the use of plastic in guns. In fact the better performing airsoft guns are plastic. I suppose metal has a more satisfying heft and feel for many people, myself included. But yes, it's just zinc alloy or diecast metal out of Taiwan so are not really of the highest quality anyway. The Glock is a superb pistol, and very reliable in service. That guy on youtube, Hickok45, is a big fan of the Glock series of pistols and it's great to watch him shoot with them. You're probably right that Polymer may be the way forward, though unliked by many I'm sure.

[Gareth W-B]

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As someone who used to do Practical Mini Rifle with a banana mag fed Ruger 10/22 sat in a synthetic Heckler & Koch styled stock, imho, the best gun for Co2 Mini Gun would be the Umarex MP5K-PDW or the Sig Sauser MCX / MPX.

I now have an MP5K-PDW listed for sale in the sales section.

[Barison82]

Hi,
I'm a bit far away from you I think .
We are in Blackburn Lancashire.
We had a fun shoot this morning and included I.P.A.S
The quickest time was 3.13 seconds for 5 plates !

Hi. Yes you are just a bit too far away - shame! That sounds like great fun. Can't wait to get involved. IPAS and IPSC is definitely the way to go. Blimey. 3.13 seconds for 5 plates is outstanding! A great score indeed.

[eyebull]

Yes I thought that there are ways to minimise/stop ricochets with BBs. I was curious about the Webley Copper BBs and how effective they are in this regard for 4.5mm, and if they are suitable at all for use in Umarex air pistols. Big shame that you are not as involved with IPAS as you'd like to be. Not having a car is a big barrier in this sport. I'm in London and probably quite fortunate as there seems to be quite a few clubs within easy travelling distance by public transport, however I'm struggling to find one that offers IPAS. The airsoft range in Camden is looking like my best bet at the moment.

Out of curiosity what's the name of the Camden range?
I did some IPAS at East Barnet Shooting Club, not sure if they still do it there though.

[Barison82]

Out of curiosity what's the name of the Camden range?
I did some IPAS at East Barnet Shooting Club, not sure if they still do it there though.

Hi eyebull - apologies for the very late reply, I've not been here for a while! The Camden range is called 'Alpha Guns London' and is on Camden High Street, located in a downstairs basement. I went in there to check it out, the venue is quite small, the shop sells two-tone airsoft guns and has an all-enclosed range. Their website is here: http://alphaguns.london/epages/5eaa6...ath=Categories although it doesn't show very much! Cheers

[eyebull]

Hi eyebull - apologies for the very late reply, I've not been here for a while! The Camden range is called 'Alpha Guns London' and is on Camden High Street, located in a downstairs basement. I went in there to check it out, the venue is quite small, the shop sells two-tone airsoft guns and has an all-enclosed range. Their website is here: http://alphaguns.london/epages/5eaa6...ath=Categories although it doesn't show very much! Cheers

Thanks for the link, and do keep us posted on your racegun project