Suggestions for "practical" Co2 pistol

[Aimstraight]

Looks like a decent S&W 586-6 in sales at the moment. These are very good, reliable and accurate....if you like revolvers.

[eyebull]

Looks like a decent S&W 586-6 in sales at the moment. These are very good, reliable and accurate....if you like revolvers.

The best Umarex pellet replica IMO. They are all revolvers after all, but at least the S+W isn't trying to be something it isn't.
Most accurate, best sights, best trigger, best build, most shots, and most reliable.

[Aimstraight]

The best Umarex pellet replica IMO. They are all revolvers after all, but at least the S+W isn't trying to be something it isn't.
Most accurate, best sights, best trigger, best build, most shots, and most reliable.

I agree, and the one for sale is the more desirable original gloss finish and from a long term bbs member (I have no connection with the sale).

[Geezer]

The best Umarex pellet replica IMO. They are all revolvers after all, but at least the S+W isn't trying to be something it isn't.
Most accurate, best sights, best trigger, best build, most shots, and most reliable.

I agree. But the trigger, on DA, is sometimes annoying.

A real S&W, after the slack is taken up, gives a smooth pressure at a constant pull weight, this unlocks the cylinder, starts rotating it and lifting the hammer, keeps doing that, locks the cylinder, lifts the hammer a bit more, and then releases it, seamlessly. At constant pressure.

The older real Colt DA, by contrast, is different. It "stacks" - gets slowly heavier (doing all that stuff above) and then releases the hammer to fire. With experience, one can pull through quickly to the end of the "stack" and then (fractions of a second later) allow the piece to settle on aim before adding a tiny bit of pressure to fire. But you can not use that technique as quickly and accurately as the S&W without that small pause.

The real S&W is better for very fast DA work. The real Colt is inferior, but, with practice, a user can feel when it is about to fire, and pause there for a micro-second before pulling through to fire, with good results. At least on a range.

The Umarex S&W trigger is smooth, raising the hammer while unlocking and rotating the cylinder, but near the end of the pull it often needs a slight additional pressure to finally rotate and lock the cylinder, which can disturb the aim, before immediately getting slightly lighter and releasing the hammer. This is impossible to manage with complete smoothness and therefore accuracy. Not all of them do this, or if they do, they do it to different degrees. But the inherent timing issues are palpable.

But, for emphasis, the Umarex S&W remains the best of the Umarex pellet guns for accuracy, and for fast accuracy. It is closely run by the CP88 (and to some extent the 92) in both categories in DA, and by most Umarex pistols in slow-fire accuracy (though it still edges them, as a result of better sights, balance, etc - but don't discount a CP99 in single-action, despite its small size and poor sights). The Desert Eagle, with good trigger control by the user, beats it in the "high speed, moderate accuracy" stakes, as it can fire about 50% faster, but with lower ultimate accuracy and much more noise - and it is very gas inefficient.

[eyebull]

I'd agree with all the above, except perhaps with your views on the Desert Eagle trigger. By way of contrast I felt it to be graunchy and physically uncomfortable to shoot, even in SA. Its general construction is quite different from the rest. If it had been in the same vein as the 92FS, CP88 et al, it could really have been a contender, rather than a slightly obscure also-ran.
Still bloody good fun though

The Umarex S+W's trigger is much improved after a basic fettle and decent lubrication throughout. But it does have the flaws you describe. Interesting to know how it compares to the 'real' version too.

One thing doesn't get mentioned enough: Long term, it's well worth picking up a spare indexing pawl or two. Same goes for all the Umarexes that use the smaller 8 shot mag too. The indexing pawls and the magazines (less so with the S+W mags) are made of fairly soft alloy and see a lot of action. If the mag jams and the trigger is pulled too hard, it can ruin both components in short order.