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    ccdjg is offline Airgun Alchemist, Collector and Scribe
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    As far as spring air pistols go, two come to mind which use a hinged trap door loading principle, of sorts. These are the Hungarian Lampagyar

    http://www.vintageairgunsgallery.com/image/Mxru
    http://www.vintageairgunsgallery.com/image/MpUG
    http://www.vintageairgunsgallery.com/image/MK2S

    and the Swedish Excellent 1950
    http://www.vintageairgunsgallery.com/image/MnPB
    http://www.vintageairgunsgallery.com/image/MkXA
    http://www.vintageairgunsgallery.com/image/MXjQ

    The Lampagyar is unusual in that the trap door is opened and closed automatically during cocking.

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    I've never seen that Hungarian pistol before.

    This is why I find collecting so interesting: such a simple design problem (propel a pellet reasonably accurately using compressed air), so many different designs tried.

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    I think it is unique, most trapdoors allow you to push the pellet into the rifling. That Browning one is just dropping it into the breech - does something push it into the rifling or does the pellet jump into it on firing? If the latter it is a shit design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    I think it is unique, most trapdoors allow you to push the pellet into the rifling. That Browning one is just dropping it into the breech - does something push it into the rifling or does the pellet jump into it on firing? If the latter it is a shit design.
    Although the pellet makes a similar transition from the loading tap into the rifling on the BSA/LJ underlevers and they're still capable of great accuracy. I suppose the alignment of tap and bore has to be spot on, and soft lead presumably allows a tiny margin for error here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garvin View Post
    Although the pellet makes a similar transition from the loading tap into the rifling on the BSA/LJ underlevers and they're still capable of great accuracy. I suppose the alignment of tap and bore has to be spot on, and soft lead presumably allows a tiny margin for error here?
    Good point, kind of similar. I have found the AirStar to be very accurate, but it's as everything else on the gun, uniquely strange? The loading port as configured lets the AirStar have one oval O ring seal above the opening. The other systems have two o ring seals one on each side of the opened breech.

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