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Birmingham have been selected as the UK bid.
Only one problem, they didn't include the shooting disciplines!!!
Lets hope Eley and BSA have had a word with the City bid team.
Too late to do anything now, apart from hope Malaysia win the bid
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No British competitors anyway thanks to our wonderful government
Stop that pigeon now!
Anybody would think it's a comedy.
I can't actually find out the exact contents of the proposal by Birmingham Council as their web page announcement shows no detail of the content of their bid or the venues to be used for the events they intend to host. Have they actually proposed that no shooting events will be included in the 2022 Commonwealth games?
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Birmingham have got to get permission from the government to be able to host it
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Au contraire mon ami.Originally Posted by AdeC
The list of british shooting squad for the 2014 games.
MenPistol/Small boreShotgun
Athlete Event Qualification Final Points Rank Points Rank Mick Gault 10 m air pistol 569 5 Q 176.5 Stewart Nangle 578 2 Q 135.9 5 Kristian Callaghan 25 m rapid fire pistol 559 4 Q 17 Kristian Callaghan 50 m pistol 547 2 Q 128.0 5 Mick Gault 529 13 Did not advance Kenny Parr 10 m air rifle 623.4 2 Q 140.3 5 Daniel Rivers 623.6 1 Q 182.4 Kenny Parr 50 m rifle prone 620.8 2 Q 182.0 Daniel Rivers 611.4 20 Did not advance Kenny Parr 50 m rifle 3 positions 1154 3 Q 401.9 6 Daniel Rivers 1157 1 Q 452.9 FGR
Athlete Event Qualification Semifinals Final/BM Points Rank Points Rank Points Rank Aaron Heading Trap 119 2 Q 14 2 QG 9 Dave Sipling 101 23 Did not advance Matthew French Double trap 132 3 Q 27 2 QG 29 Steve Scott 132 4 Q 27 1 QG 30 Mike Gilligan Skeet 112 14 Did not advance Rory Warlow 118 6 Q 12 3 QB 14
Athlete Event Stage 1 Stage 2 Stage 3 Total Points Points Points Points Rank David Luckman Individual 104–11v 149–21v 148–10v 401–42v GR Parag Patel 103–13v 149–17v 142–5v 394–35v David Luckman
Parag PatelPairs 300–43v 295–34v N/A 595–77v GR
Athlete Event Qualification Semifinals Final Points Rank Points Rank Points Rank Gerri Buckley 10 metre air pistol 366 17 N/A Did not advance Victoria Mullin 365 18 N/A Did not advance Gerri Buckley 25 m pistol 569 6 Q 8 8 Did not advance Victoria Mullin 562 10 Did not advance Sheree Cox 10 m air rifle 406.8 15 N/A Did not advance Larissa Sykes 406.6 16 N/A Did not advance Lina Jones 50 m rifle prone N/A 615.4 5 Sharon Lee N/A 609.8 16 Sheree Cox 50 m rifle 3 positions 558 16 N/A Did not advance Hannah Pugsley 562 13 N/A Did not advance
Athlete Event Qualification Semifinals Final/BM Points Rank Points Rank Points Rank Charlotte Kerwood Trap 64 10 Did not advance Caroline Povey 67 5 Q 11 3 QB 12 Charlotte Kerwood Double trap N/A 94 Rachel Parish N/A 91 Sarah Gray Skeet 65 6 Q 13(1) 3 QB 12 4 Amber Hill 65 7 Did not advance
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Perhaps there will be an AK 47 section from Birmingham
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Surely the Games organizing committee set the disciplines and the cities bidding have to meet the listBirmingham have been selected as the UK bid.
Only one problem, they didn't include the shooting disciplines!!!
Lets hope Eley and BSA have had a word with the City bid team.
Too late to do anything now, apart from hope Malaysia win the bid
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As bullbarrel quoted .Kenny Parr won the 50m prone a few weeks ago. http://twipost.com/hashtag.php?q=EleyAmmunition
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBe7v99VoAAbtxY.jpg .
Met him a number of years ago and his father at a fire works night party. Really nice guy.
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Blimey. That's surprised me. I was really referring to the pistol events. Where do the British competitors train? Didn't see any in the Olympics
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There was a bit of shooting shown from the 16 Olympics but you had to look for it & view live online although a couple of clips of UK clay shooters were shown on TV.
There was quite a lot on the special extra satellite channels from 2012 both clay & small bore but didn't see any full bore.
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That's because they don't shoot full bore at the Olympics.
They do at the Commonwealths, but it's a bit behind the times in coverage because they still shoot paper targets in full bore and put the scores up on a billboard hours after they've collected all the paper from downrange, at least that's the impression I got from Scotland's hosting.
Shooting has been working hard to improve it's TV profile, but it needs to go a long way further. But in opposition you have more dynamic sports being accepted by the IOC driving more TV revenue.
Target Sprint has been formulated to do that... i'm not wholly convinced. It's a short track running version of biathlon, which has more visual appeal... and they don't run with the guns. So really it's running and then shooting and then running, and then shooting, and then running. Which we already have. It smacks of a bright idea that's desperately trying to hold onto standing with an air rifle.
Pentathlon has dropped shooting and they've now gone to laser pointers. Anschutz were celebrating their rifle laser points on social media this week.
You can see where it's going to possibly end up, but 10m laser pointing is about as interesting as watching Formula E in comparison to F1, which is basically a good excuse for a snooze (and I'm a motorsport fan). 3p is something like 1 hour 45 and then a final that takes almost another hour. It's a great technical achievement for the top shooters, but it's just pandering to that. Prone is just batch test fest that anyone can win, although there are a handful that have fought their way to the top on a more consistent basis. But 60 shots is just too long. Same with 10m. That's why the actual matches aren't televised. They just show the finals.
Shooting, if it wants the coverage, needs to supply what TV wants. And that's speed, colour and noise because TV doesn't care about what it shows, just how many watch it.
Stop that pigeon now!
I agree, to be honest, watching target sports on TV is for most people (not target shooting nerds like me) an experience akin to watching paint dry.
How do we improve the image? We can't really make 10m air rifle or pistol dramatic can we? Similarly most of the rimfire disciplines aren't exactly going to give viewers an adrenaline fix.
The clay shooting however has some movement that viewers who want action may appreciate, possibly with the right TV presentation moving target (running boar/deer targets) could give a non-shooting viewer a bit of excitement.
How does shooting become more acceptable to the general public? TV and press exposure will only come if we have a young pretty female star getting gold medals for one of the UK countries, then the mass media might be interested in putting a few pics on the front page. Without being sexist the general public would not be interested in seeing pics of blokes with guns, girls with guns would get a bit more attention but how long would the attention span of the nations paper buyers last? The general public seems to have a goldfish type attention span for anything but football.
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That is one thing that modern target shooting disciplines do have over others, they're more broad across the sexes and are picked up by the youngsters.I agree, to be honest, watching target sports on TV is for most people (not target shooting nerds like me) an experience akin to watching paint dry.
How do we improve the image? We can't really make 10m air rifle or pistol dramatic can we? Similarly most of the rimfire disciplines aren't exactly going to give viewers an adrenaline fix.
The clay shooting however has some movement that viewers who want action may appreciate, possibly with the right TV presentation moving target (running boar/deer targets) could give a non-shooting viewer a bit of excitement.
How does shooting become more acceptable to the general public? TV and press exposure will only come if we have a young pretty female star getting gold medals for one of the UK countries, then the mass media might be interested in putting a few pics on the front page. Without being sexist the general public would not be interested in seeing pics of blokes with guns, girls with guns would get a bit more attention but how long would the attention span of the nations paper buyers last? The general public seems to have a goldfish type attention span for anything but football.
I think severely dialling back the clothing would help. There's arguments about it's protection against long term injury, but i'm not sure how well that holds against other sports where athletes suffer potential long term injury risk. Dunno, that's a doc's job.
The guns are of interest, keep that aspect. And we could have live traces (with a bit of development) and heart rate monitors.
The timing needs to be shorter. And we need kit that can actually do the task... .22 LR not being able to shoot 10.9's consistently off a rig, devoid of shooter, indoors just means that it's overscored.
Perhaps the comps could be like tennis... eliminate 1/2 from say shot 5, then the next 1/2, then the next... decimal score around the ability of the rifle.
In some ways the attraction of HFT/FT is you're not 'practicing' to hit a target... you have 1 shot to get it right. Something that gets a bit wider marksmanship into the target may provide a different setting. Ie the IOC have dropped some indoor cycling, but added BMX. While I'm not overly keen on shifting to something which is questionably not as technically deep as the sport it replaces, the different setting may provide different exposure for the camera.
The real boost would be being able to see down the scope. This can be done at the moment, but i'm not sure how it handles high mag dark scope pictures.
The commercial exploitation needs to be done. That means some pretty draconian rules in place for the trade, but if they want it then it can be done. The trade is where I see the future investments of the sports coming from, and without it I think we'll definitely lose the opportunity that we perhaps have in keeping it at the profile we have now.
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Bisley for .22lr pistols I think. Supervised by the army . Rimfire.
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