I wonder how good these MTC's will prove to be - the last lot were perhaps cleverly marketed but overrated. I realise the Mamba Lite has a loyal following but I can only speak of the Mamba 4-16x50AO IR - very sensitive to eye position with annoying whiteout and turret dials stiff and undefined with barely felt clicks. Glass isn't too bad but I think Nikon & Vortex are markedly superior for similar money. Also had a Connect 3-12 x 24 but found SCB2 reticule ridiculously complex. Chose plain 'German ret' for the Mamba.