Iv had both (lots of Hw100k) I prefer the Hw100k for 12ft/lbs. easier to fill, smoother and better mag. The rapid I had was a MFR very nice but I seemed to catch the bolt often when I was hunting, which became annoying hence why I sold it
Iv had both (lots of Hw100k) I prefer the Hw100k for 12ft/lbs. easier to fill, smoother and better mag. The rapid I had was a MFR very nice but I seemed to catch the bolt often when I was hunting, which became annoying hence why I sold it
Had my Mk1 Rapid for 17 years but it's 30ft/lbs and I have no complaints what so ever
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The Rapid is an agricultural gun. That's its beauty. Its also its Achilles heel as the 100 is so much more refined and capable.
If you like tinkering then the Rapid offers that opportunity.
Of the two I would go 100 and if you want shot count I would convert the 100 to a capacity bottle.
The trigger and mag system on the 100 is better than the Rapid - and to get a decent trigger on a rapid, you have to go to a newer version. Most rapid triggers are either poor or agricultural too.
However, they are both good kit and do what they say on the tin. I would recommend both but having had both, I would go for the 100 every single time.
The ONLY TRUE advantage I see in the Rapid over the 100 is if you stray into FAC outputs. The 100 is great as a sub 12 but pants in FAC and the Rapid is excellent in FAC. Even then, I love my Air Ranger better.
I think overall, I prefer the sophistication and slick operation of the 100. The mag system and even the SSA just cant be touched even in todays market.
In a battle of wits I refuse to engage with an unarmed person.
To one shot one kill, you need to seek the S. Kill only comes from Skill
I would not really call the hw100 refined.you only need to take a look at the reg.worked on both and I my self have 5 rapids but no hw100.think what puts some shooters of rapids is when they get a bad example that's been messed with and set up wrong.to say they are easy to work on you dont half see some cock ups.
kevG
Hmmm. so you are saying a rifle that has one of the crappest triggers on record ( and for pretty much during the greater part of its lifetime) and a sticky out mag that gets gummy is more refined than a 100 mag system. IIRC the decent trigger were Mk4 unless you count the Anschutz unit. My Mk1 was a a huge pile of poo but I loved it.
Kev I know your a Rapid nut and I agree the rapid is a fine rifle, but in no way is this gun refined. Its the whole reason why a Rapid is a Rapid.
As for the reg.....well reg or knock open valves...to be frank....both also do the job and well.
The argument is there is more than way to meter air and some like one system and others another.....
But you cannot argue that the mag system on a raid is better than the 100. I have had both and the 100 walks it. And as the mag system on a multishot is pretty much what it is all about.....
BUT......Rapids are good solid guns - on that I think we are agreed. You can certainly do a lot worse. But they are not refined at all.
In a battle of wits I refuse to engage with an unarmed person.
To one shot one kill, you need to seek the S. Kill only comes from Skill
never said a rapid was refined.its as refined as a 68 land rover.
but does the job.at the end of the day it's about personal opinion.one man's meat one man's poison.main gripe for me with the hw100 is the two piece action block and shity reg.some of the barrels were not that good either.
kevG
I sold my HW100 S to fund a very nice condition mk2 in .177. Biggest air rifle related mistake I've made to date.
Even though it had numerous upgraded parts, My 100 was so much more accurate and the more easier and practical rifle to live with, I sold the rapid within a month.
Ok....but thats not answering the point. Is the Rapid as refined as an HW100. The answer is very clear.as you made the analogy...the Rapid is like a land rover and that is not refined either. The only thing I would say is that the rapid is reliable whereas the 68 isnt.
The two peice action block ....I have never had an issue with the 100s I have had other than one being bent at an RFD when being put back into a stock.
The reg....never an issue with that either.
The barrels ...well they had a dodgy batch....they also had a dodgy batch of mods too but HOW LONG was it befor Theoben came up with any sort of decent trigger at all.........the answer is YEARS. Most weirauchs have good triggers and have for donkeys years.
Your arguments dont hold water Kev 😊😊😊😊 and ya know it lad xxx
If you want meccano and like spanners the Rapid is the kiddy and if its FAC Rapid all day long. If you want refinement...untouchable magazine and cocking and smooth trigger then 100.
As for the trigger......its an essential element of any rifle. I have no grasp why you would want a gun that uses a bag of gravel in a parachute to discharge a shot. Its like a Veron with oval wheels. Might look OK but you sure as hell notice it when you operate it.
In a battle of wits I refuse to engage with an unarmed person.
To one shot one kill, you need to seek the S. Kill only comes from Skill