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    Quote Originally Posted by gingernut View Post
    It is low powered and has a dodgy folding tool/bayonet attached to the barrel.

    You can get it cheaper than £400 and I assume will have a years warranty.

    I doubt you will be able to get spare parts.

    It actually operates nicely and certainly smoother than the real one.

    Available to play with in my two local gunshops.
    Yes its got some good reviews - I have an issue of that Airgun Hobbyist with one article on this . Certainly interesting hence my interest .
    The ref to £400 was the expected cost of the SMLE and also Kar98 being imported soon , sold by merchants such as Sportsguns .
    Nobody has any info - I find that very odd .
    If / when you are in your local two shops , can you see the box for the Nagant and relate to us any manufacturers details from the carton or the Owners Sheet ? ... again as with the others the maker who I and others believe to be the same , is an unknown mystery for the Nagant .
    If the box says Gletcher or ... its not made by Gletcher .
    All very confusing .

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    Zamak and imitation wood ie plastic. CO2 has its uses, but bbs are crap to shoot.

    Sounds like a very expensive toy to me. If you want it for a wall hanger, you'd be better off with a decent a deact.

    For 400 quid you can get a HW77 in a laminated stock - steel, wood, rifled barrel, spare parts readily available, and guaranteed to last a lifetime.

    Even a half decent pcp.
    Arthur

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    Obviously not a fan of bb guns ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur John Smithsplease View Post
    Zamak and imitation wood ie plastic. CO2 has its uses, but bbs are crap to shoot.

    Sounds like a very expensive toy to me. If you want it for a wall hanger, you'd be better off with a decent a deact.

    For 400 quid you can get a HW77 in a laminated stock - steel, wood, rifled barrel, spare parts readily available, and guaranteed to last a lifetime.

    Even a half decent pcp.

    Not many SMLE out there - that fire anything - unless you got an Fac that is .
    The OP , myself and many others on this thread are waiting in expectation for new releases along these similar lines - K98 , Mosin , SMLE .
    We are not at all concerned with the materials used nor in any opinions on the pedigree of such .
    By nature most will be relegated to collectibles very quickly anyway .

    The point I make is there is a total lack of transparency in who and where made , irrespective of the cost .
    It irks that I and others will fork out the full RRP ( and we will ) for such when we don't even know who the maker is .

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    AirforceOne is simply a registered marketing name owned by TSP (The Shooting Party). Obviously they have deep enough pockets to slap the AirForceOne name on product they wish to market. If you look at their full lineup you note OEM products that are manufactured by Snowpeak China, Listone in Taiwan, Nova Vista from Macau and maybe a few others.

    I am not 100% certain but I think this particular SMLE model may be manufactured by Listone as I recall seeing the Nagant model on their IWA 2017 profile.

    Photo: https://s26.postimg.org/o03w4um0p/listone_oem.jpg
    Last edited by Citizen K; 16-09-2017 at 04:52 PM.

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    I'm not against WW2 replicas. In fact, I wouldn't mind having one if they were reasonably priced..

    But the prices they are going for are a joke. Cheap cast alloy and plastic are not expensive materials.

    They must have an enormous mark up.

    I bought a Chinese fountain pen the other day. I wanted it for the steel barrel which happens to fit onto a drawing pen I use which is a bit too long for me.

    The Chinese pen is all metal and looks very elegant. The nib works fine and I almost don't want to break the pen up. Thinking of getting a bottle of writing ink and using it for letters etc. I've always liked fountain pens. I may order a couple more.

    Posted from China and took about a week to arrive.

    Price, including postage: £1.95
    Last edited by Arthur John Smithsplease; 16-09-2017 at 05:38 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen K View Post
    AirforceOne is simply a registered marketing name owned by TSP (The Shooting Party). Obviously they have deep enough pockets to slap the AirForceOne name on product they wish to market. If you look at their full lineup you note OEM products that are manufactured by Snowpeak China, Listone in Taiwan, Nova Vista from Macau and maybe a few others.

    I am not 100% certain but I think this particular SMLE model may be manufactured by Listone as I recall seeing the Nagant model on their IWA 2017 profile.

    Photo: https://s26.postimg.org/o03w4um0p/listone_oem.jpg
    So, made in Taiwan.

    A bit of searching based on Listone's website also reveals the Indonesian maker Cannon, who appear to make copies of the Sharp Innova (is that the Webley Rebel?) and of a Benjamin multi-pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    So, made in Taiwan.

    A bit of searching based on Listone's website also reveals the Indonesian maker Cannon, who appear to make copies of the Sharp Innova (is that the Webley Rebel?) and of a Benjamin multi-pump.

    Listone
    also has a Taiwan retail shoppe for local airgunners (restricted to 2J power), as such they are agents for a quite a few well known brands.

    Make no mistake though, they are deep into the OEM stuff, especially barrels, most of which you will not find on their website.

    Mosin: http://www.taiwan-airgun.com/en/prod...ion.php?PNo=90

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