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    Webley Vulcan.

    Nice thread Sir. Richard North used to use a Vulcan back in the day when we used to had speed shots at good old fashioned FT shoots. Yep showing my age. Mach 1.5

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    I still very much doubt the max total of 110 produced for the Vulcan SE.
    You see them far too often for that. They were listed for sale from 1980 upto 1984. Thats way too long for 110 pieces.
    It might be that the late Series 1 SE's were limited to 110 but I dont think the Series 2 were limited to 110.
    Pitty its nowhere to trace exactly, as the webley bible isnt very clear about it either, the 110 sentence only speaks of the Series 1
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    I've had loads of Vulcan of every variant.. Probably my most favourite all time gun... I now only have a mk3 left.
    I would like to add that I think the 'open breech' design is superior to the closed design of most break barrels. It makes it easier to load, and easier to identify and replace damaged breech seals. The trigger on all Vulcan and Victor can easily be improved by using a weaker spring in the trigger - with a little searching, a simple click pen spring does the job. This improves the trigger no end. Also a note to anyone wanting to spruce up a Vulcan variant - get yourself an Aussie red parachute seal! These are a great improvement over the PTFE ring and give a much softer shot cycle.
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    A significant difference in the Victor action was the flat faced rear breech plug, instead of the rounded Vulcan type, also it originally retained the 14mm barrel and short front sight of the Vulcan I.

    A notable change in the Vulcan III was the cast trigger blade, which had a wider ribbed face.

    The C1 was a straight Victor action with the barrel further shortened, but later versions acquired a safety, 16mm barrel, and ribbed trigger (which IMHO greatly improved the handling of the cute but wrist-wrecking straight grip stock).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDriskill View Post

    A significant difference in the Victor action was the flat faced rear breech plug, instead of the rounded Vulcan type, also it originally retained the 14mm barrel and short front sight of the Vulcan I.

    A notable change in the Vulcan III was the cast trigger blade, which had a wider ribbed face.

    The C1 was a straight Victor action with the barrel further shortened, but later versions acquired a safety, 16mm barrel, and ribbed trigger (which IMHO greatly improved the handling of the cute but wrist-wrecking straight grip stock).
    Some great extra info for this on-going thread, there, so many thanks. Atb: G.
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    This has been a really good read and it was very decent of you to bump this up for me to read, it has been a great way to spend an hour on a Sunday afternoon. I now would like to own a Vulcan and especially the C1 as I cannot think of another air rifle that has the stock design that this has. I am no collector and would probably go for a MK2 onwards for the Vulcan. Does the later Vulcan and C1 require special scope mounts like the Airsporters?

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    Nope, worry not: Same standard scope mounts across the whole post 1979 Webley & Scott Vulcan range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwtyger View Post

    I still very much doubt the max total of 110 produced for the Vulcan SE.
    You see them far too often for that. They were listed for sale from 1980 upto 1984. Thats way too long for 110 pieces.
    It might be that the late Series 1 SE's were limited to 110 but I dont think the Series 2 were limited to 110.
    Pitty its nowhere to trace exactly, as the webley bible isnt very clear about it either, the 110 sentence only speaks of the Series 1
    Hi. Yes, the 'Special Edition' (SE) variants were limited to what we now know as the series one Vulcan, but sorry, to say there may have been more than 110 is quite quite wrong. Here is why. As stated, each version of the Vulcan (I, II, and III) came with a walnut stocked Deluxe version. They also all came as a Custom version, too ...

    From the Series II Vulcan onwards, the aforementioned Custom Versions were also called the 'Special Export' model. This got abbreviated by the trade to SE.

    This is where the confusion comes in, as the ORIGINAL Vulcan SE was the Special Edition model, and as stated in the opening post, ALL Special Edition examples have their own specific serial number range starting with a nine (9) and there were only ever 110 of these manufactured.

    All the Vulcan Special Export variants have serial numbers which slot straight in to the running sequence of serial numbers, and run into their thousands. Hope this clarifies and helps: G.

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    ^^^^^^^ ref the post as above ^^^^^^^

    In view of the motivation behind me starting this thread (amalgamating many months of random post info from yours truly on the Vulcan, into one coherent post/thread opener) for ease of referencing and continued clarity, am going to copy the salient parts of the post immediately above to the relevant section of the opening post on this thread, so if you are reading this thread after the event, you haven't gone mad, your not experiencing de ja vu, and this isn't Groundhog Day. You are all okay.
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    For more info etc on the Special Edition Vulcan, please see page # 125 of Chris Thrale's most wonderful book Webley Air Rifles 1925 - 2005.
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    What! No mention of the factories Vulcan gas ram? https://imgur.com/Q0SwjIY Shame on you.

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    The secret behind the first full power Webley lay in the patented piston head used in the Vulcan. This was the work of the then technical director Harold Resuggan who later became MD. This was a composite head using PTFE with a recess and a soft buffer between it and the piston. The idea was that pressure would push the PTFE head towards the piston reducing the volume of the recess. A double whammy. To get the most from anew Vulcan it was best to dry fire the rifle a couple of times to size the PTFE head to the chamber.
    Whether it workedor not is open to debate but certainly the Vulcan I bought was way more powerful that my MK3 and the pathetic output of the Hawk which used a composite piston ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post

    What! No mention of the factories Vulcan gas ram? https://imgur.com/Q0SwjIY Shame on you.

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    Show off !!! (thanks for showing us your legendary factory prototype my fine friend: appreciated ) ...
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