I was lucky enough to meet both guys when they were starting out in the early days at my local Russell Walkyer in Saffron Walden

The prototype they showed me was stunning, not a bit of plastic in sight, beautiful deep blacking, no open sites and beech stock with the fixed 1" scope rings

I spent probably an hour listening to them describing how they worked, they even offered to let me take the .22 one home to test for a week or so but I was to scared of damaging it