Luger Co2 BB Pistols

[Gareth W-B]

Evening Gents. Following my post on Johnbaz's Crossman Pistol thread earlier, and the fact that a Co2 BB Luger is next on my pistol wish-list, thought I'd ask the Yodas of this here pistol section which they would most recommend from the following, and why?

Gletcher Luger (blued effect finish with brown grips)
Gletcher Parabellum Luger (blued effect finish with black grips), and/or the
Umerax Parabellum Luger (again blued effect finish with black grips)

Both the Gletchers are blow back I believe (?), and the brown handled Luger is my cosmetically preferred model, but am open to input. Also, why is the second Gletcher model, and the Umarex model also called Parabellums, as notwithstanding the colours of the grips, they seem identical, and all are under £130 new from BAR.

Thank you in advance and anticipation of all your thoughts and comments on the above pistols, as all info etc will be greatly appreciated. Atb: Gareth.

[blooregard]

Gareth,

The parabellums are KWC guns and in my opinion are the best model easily available at the moment. Both the KWC guns and the Gletcher P08 are blowbacks but the Parabellum comes with a full sized mag that contains the CO2.

The P08 is not bad, but the KWC model is a lot better and often cheaper. I cannot see why real wooden grips could not be fitted to the Parabellum (though I haven't tried).

The naming differences are just a way of using a correct name but for different pistols, the P08 being a military designation and Parabellum being the commercial model.

[Gareth W-B]

Thanks blooregard. Fantastic clarifying info and greatly appreciated.

ATB: Gareth.

[gingernut]

KWC is the way to go.
Very satisfying but eat gas having to blowback all that metal.

[Paul55]

Ignore the Umarex Legends version. It's a non blowback hammer striker pistol. I'm not sure hammer striker is correct term, to clarify the barrel moves forward as pull the trigger. When the trigger breaks the barrel is released and hits the gas valve firing the BB. This type of pistol always has a long trigger pull & is quite weighty.

[Arthur John Smithsplease]

Yes, the original Gletcher (brown grips) comes with a skinny stick magazine.

Then the KWCs came out with the full mag. Umarex sells one.

Gletcher then decided to sell one too.

The toggle on the KWC holds open after the last shot. Not sure the orginal brown gripped Gletcher does.

KWC is also generally cheaper.

[Aimstraight]

KWC is the way to go.
Very satisfying but eat gas having to blowback all that metal.

Very true, what a gas guzzler! But worth it for the realistic blowback action. Very nicely built pistol IMHO.

[tinbum]

Very true, what a gas guzzler! But worth it for the realistic blowback action. Very nicely built pistol IMHO.

Ok, someone point me at one with a link please. I've checked my usual supplier in gernpmany, but I'm scared of getting the wrong one.