Issf competitive supported pistol and rifle

[zooma]

[QUOTE=RobinC;7431839]The event the ISSF promote and Zooma's club have taken on board is not "bench rest" it is "Rested" and it is certainly not easy. Its an event designed not so much for young beginners, but aimed at keeping older shooters in the sport. Look at the rules as notified by Thirdwheel in the first post, there are pictures in it and you can see what its all about.

It is the biggest branch of shooting sport in Germany and generally in Europe (why the ISSF has climbed onto the band wagon), most rifle manufacturers make rifles specially for this discipline (called auflage in German)

Its a fun event, and having tried it with expert standing and prone shooters who discovered its not easy!

Bench rest is altogether different is run to their own associations rules, and the NSRA bench rest rules are a mystery to every one, not meeting either![/QUOTE).


Why on Earth do the NSRA want to "do their own thing" and not follow the ISSF rules for supported shooting?

Is it because they want to shoot at different distances perhaps - or do they prefer to shoot in the sitting position (only for those aged 71 and over following the ISSF rules)?

There is no point trying to reinvent the wheel when the round shape works well enough already.

At first glance this seems like madness. Surely it would be better if we all worked to the same (existing ISSF) rules?

[RobinC]

I think the NSRA may well use the ISSF rules for supported eventually, we did after all translate them for them a couple of years ago and I know John Lloyd was really interested, I'm just bemused by the NSRA's bench rest rules, which are "different", perhaps they follow the very UK mantra of "if its broke why mend it?"

I'm of course too young to shoot supported, do I hear laughter coming from the north?

Have Fun
Robin

[zooma]

I think the NSRA may well use the ISSF rules for supported eventually, we did after all translate them for them a couple of years ago and I know John Lloyd was really interested, I'm just bemused by the NSRA's bench rest rules, which are "different", perhaps they follow the very UK mantra of "if its broke why mend it?"

I'm of course too young to shoot supported, do I hear laughter coming from the north?

Have Fun
Robin

Yes indeed - much laughter here in the north!

At your tender age (Happy Birthday - sorry I missed it at the weekend) you are now entitled to officially sit down and shoot under the ISSF rested shooting rules, something that Paul and I would like to do too - but we are too young and we will have to wait a little longer before we can enjoy a good sit down (and slice of cake?) whilst shooting our rested air rifles!

Your interpretation of the NSRA attitude "if its broke why mend it" made me smile, but as far as the rested shooting discipline is concerned it is hard to understand why our national organisation would want to take on the work load of making new rules when a time proven set already exists and can be used for free - and right now with no further delays!

[RobinC]

To be fair to John Lloyd, chair ( I thinK still?) of the NSRA air and other related stuff Committee, he will agree, and he is/was one of the drivers behind bringing supported to the UK. I have no interest in it but I think its a great event both in rifle and pistol.

I agree nothing performed to the top level is easy, I have no knowledge of small bore and air bench rest other than having seen it and know its different, centre fire cartridge bench rest which is where it all emanated is much more about the technical aspect of the equipment, i.e. making the rifle and the ammunition shoot accurately. Much of the technical advances in rifles have come from that sport in the US, I benefit from that, my wife and I shoot ISSF 300 mt and we use the 6 mmBR calibre developed by BR shooters, low recoil, and its accuracy is astounding, a big step above the best small bore, and only matched by the best air pellets, but not at 300 metres!

Yes I may be now permitted to sit under Rested rules, my main sport now is prone rifle with small bore and full bore, I use a timer, many think its to use the allowed time effectively, but actually its an alarm clock in case I nod off!

Have fun
Robin

[zooma]

Yes I may be now permitted to sit under Rested rules, my main sport now is prone rifle with small bore and full bore, I use a timer, many think its to use the allowed time effectively, but actually its an alarm clock in case I nod off!

Have fun
Robin

I guess that laying down beats sitting down - its the next step forward - but I can see the need for an alarm clock.

Do you have a nice mug of cocoa before laying down for the session?

[RobinC]

Cocoa!!! It would fail the drugs test! And slippers have to pass equipment control.

[thirdwheel]

I've just choked on my coffee, after having a vision of an aged Robin sitting down on a chair to shoot ( do so wish I could draw cartoons, and he ain't aged more like a teenager on steroids). Now running for cover as he is frigging good shot!!!!

Geo