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    For those getting too bogged down with semantics, here, the term 'Tactical' when used in air gun terms these days, refers to the style of stock (black and usually synthetic). This is the interpretation of 'Tactical' to which I believe the O-P is alluding to?

    I've a black tactical stocked BSA Scorpion single-shot (which you can't get anymore) in .177, have had it for five years now, and am still so pleased with it that there is no other tactical stocked PCP on the market that I would rather have. For it holds air well (sometimes months pass between it's outings, and if put away fully charged -- as a PCP should always be -- it doesn't drop a single psi while in the cabinet).

    Also, when shooting it off my Harris bi-pod, my tactical stocked Scorpion gives me close clover-leaf groupings at 40 yards time after time with AA 4.52s, so imho, you could do a lot worse than a BSA Scorpion (an s/h s/s variant if you can find one, or a mag-fed m/s one either s/h or brand new if not). Hope this kind-a helps? Atb: G.

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    And here is the proper meaning of the word 'Tactical'.

    a- Relating to or constituting actions carefully planned to gain a specific military end.

    b- Showing adroit planning; aiming at an end beyond the immediate action.

    I hope everyone appreciates that to stick an inappropriate adjective to an air gun does not make the gun ' tactical '.
    If it is the case that this term refers to airguns with black synthetic stocks with a few picatinny rails strewn all over the place then so be it but this does not make a UK spec air rifle either tactical nor does it aid extra accuracy in itself. If anything unless the stock is of substantial build the flexure caused by putting the rifle in various shooting positions will actually make it less accuarte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lensman57 View Post
    And here is the proper meaning of the word 'Tactical'.

    a- Relating to or constituting actions carefully planned to gain a specific military end.

    b- Showing adroit planning; aiming at an end beyond the immediate action.

    I hope everyone appreciates that to stick an inappropriate adjective to an air gun does not make the gun ' tactical '.
    If it is the case that this term refers to airguns with black synthetic stocks with a few picatinny rails strewn all over the place then so be it but this does not make a UK spec air rifle either tactical nor does it aid extra accuracy in itself. If anything unless the stock is of substantial build the flexure caused by putting the rifle in various shooting positions will actually make it less accuarte.

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    There are a lot of people out shooting "tactical" or as they would be better described as "black rifles", who get tremendous results. It doesn't have to be a fence post with a pipe strapped onto it to be accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob edge View Post

    There are a lot of people out shooting "tactical" or as they would be better described as "black rifles", who get tremendous results. It doesn't have to be a fence post with a pipe strapped onto it to be accurate.
    ^^^ This x2 (well said) and even though not dictionary defenition tactical, if tactical is he name the manufacturer labels one of their guns (as with BSA for instance) then that is the generic way in which they are referred to, no? After all, my Webley is called a Vulcan, and we accept that as a name and don't expect it to perform like a stealth winged bomber, do we (although wouldn't it be great if it did, lol ) ??? ^^^

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    Err yeah it was looking for a synthetic stock that can take the abuse and not cry when i put a huge scratch in a nice bit of wallnut, if the air bottle happens to be the stock or its a bullpup then not fussed.

    Also it seems alot of tactical/synthetic stocks are ambidextrous as standard which i need.

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    Tactical means Army-looking guns. Like the SAS use (Special Army Soldiers).


    Synthetic stocked rifle means plastic stocked rifle rather than wooden stocked rifle. I have two, a HW77K in a synthetic thumbhole, and a BSA Scorpion in a standard synthetic stock.


    Of course military rifles only got plastic stocks in the late 1960s, even some SLRs had wooden furniture.


    So in a way all air-rifles are 'tactical' if you consider the typical battle rifle of the 20th Century, the Lee-Enfield or Mauser 98.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Tactical means Army-looking guns. Like the SAS use (Special Army Soldiers).


    Synthetic stocked rifle means plastic stocked rifle rather than wooden stocked rifle. I have two, a HW77K in a synthetic thumbhole, and a BSA Scorpion in a standard synthetic stock.


    Of course military rifles only got plastic stocks in the late 1960s, even some SLRs had wooden furniture.


    So in a way all air-rifles are 'tactical' if you consider the typical battle rifle of the 20th Century, the Lee-Enfield or Mauser 98.
    I do believe the 1853 pattern Lee Enfield had a tactical option. It was adorned with false teeth made from walrus ivory to distract the enemy long enough for the 3 1/2 minute reloading procedure.
    Although lauded by the generals at the time, it resulted in a high amount of casualties and the theft of many sets of ivory teeth.
    Historians have since remarked that this was an early example of product placement on the battlefield, so popular now with the Coca~Cola Battletank.
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