Quote Originally Posted by lensman57 View Post
They designed the 80 as a 30 mm because the 80 is a hunting rifle designed to make 20 ft.lbs. To detune it to the Uk 10.5~11 ft.lbs levels makes a mockery of the gun hence the 25mm reduced versions which are quite tame and nice shooting compared to the detuned 30mm versions.

A.G
I've had the pleasure of shooting Jon's sleeved down 80 at the Boinger Bash and yes, it's a super creation, but the standard 80 at 11.5 shoots extremely accurately and quite smoothly when delrin guided with piston sleeve fitted. Agreed, by comparison with an optimally stroked gun, it's a bit lazy, but that may be a matter of personal taste anyway.