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    Quote Originally Posted by charub View Post
    I disagree about the problems with break barrel bit.
    I have a vmach sleeved hw80 and a AA pro elite - both are every bit as a accurate as any of my fixed barrel rifles. As long as they are maintained and cared for in the correct manner.
    I totally agree with charub regarding b/ barrel accuracy and performance,I also have the Pro/ elite and hw80 and Webley Tomahawk glided with reduced cylinder conversion and they are as accurate as my tx200 and then some.All guns great out to 60 yards if I do my bit.
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    No dout when done right they can tackdrive. Heck some of mine do. But they are harder to shoot and more to go wrong.
    Given a factory or basic tune break barrel or the same in a fixed barrel and the latter will "keep it there" longer. They probably have the same barrel fitted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by les allam View Post
    I totally agree with charub regarding b/ barrel accuracy and performance,I also have the Pro/ elite and hw80 and Webley Tomahawk glided with reduced cylinder conversion and they are as accurate as my tx200 and then some.All guns great out to 60 yards if I do my bit.
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    I agree with Muskett because even though a break barrel might be as accurate as a fixed barrel they wont stay like it long term because the barrel hinges every shot this means that the hinge bolt, shims and what ever stops the barrel when closing must wear in time, if you have a break barrel without barrel droop or rise one day it will have rise and not only will the accuracy change the transfer port bore alignment will change, it will take a lot of use though

    Although break barrels are fast and fun and we like them, fixed barrels are the ultimate springer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barryg View Post
    I agree with Muskett because even though a break barrel might be as accurate as a fixed barrel they wont stay like it long term because the barrel hinges every shot this means that the hinge bolt, shims and what ever stops the barrel when closing must wear in time, if you have a break barrel without barrel droop or rise one day it will have rise and not only will the accuracy change the transfer port bore alignment will change, it will take a lot of use though

    Although break barrels are fast and fun and we like them, fixed barrels are the ultimate springer
    The Pro Elite was immune to wear in the hinge area as it had replaceable bushes. They were driven into the breech block and were large with thick side flanges as well. The chisel detent was also very consistent with a large hardened pin that ran across the breech jaws below the breech block. There was a groove in the block that lined up with this pin and this was the stop. I shot my FAC .22 PE 15,000 times in one year, and I only adjusted the barrel tension after the first couple of tins. It stayed where I put it after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FPoole View Post
    The Pro Elite was immune to wear in the hinge area as it had replaceable bushes. They were driven into the breech block and were large with thick side flanges as well. The chisel detent was also very consistent with a large hardened pin that ran across the breech jaws below the breech block. There was a groove in the block that lined up with this pin and this was the stop. I shot my FAC .22 PE 15,000 times in one year, and I only adjusted the barrel tension after the first couple of tins. It stayed where I put it after that.
    Yes the PE is one of the best break barrels perhaps the best but the fact that it has replaceable bushes means BBs wear and change with time unlike fixed barrels.
    Im not sure any other break barrel can boast what you mention about the PE.

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    The bushings in the PE are some sort of bronze at a guess. When my gun was brand new, I didn't bother adjusting as I figured they needed to break in and seat themselves to the sides of the ears on the receiver. I then took the barrel off, which is very easy on the PE due to the removable linkage pin, and cleaned and lubed with 77% moly content grease. Adjusted and it stayed tight as a bank vault until the Field Target bug bit me hard. I had to have a TX for this and the .177 and .22 PE's had to go to fund more and more old abused TX's. I will say that the TX is even more robust than a PE or any break barrel for that matter. An HW80 is a flimsy thing up beside a TX200(I owned an 80 for 20 years, so I speak from experience).

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