Was having this chat with a mate last night as i am contemplating either an S510 ultimate sporter or an S410.

Price wise there is very little difference by the time you add a QTEC, extra mag, walnut stock to an S410.

S510
Pro,s
Moderator attaches directly to barrel (not so on the std S510)
Side lever which silky smooth

Con's
Carbine length
Low shot count
Heavy stock
Pointless barrel shroud


S410
Pro's
No shroud
Moderator attaches directly to barrel
Walnut stock
High shot count
Full length barrel

Con's
Poor bolt action

The standard S510 is let down (in my opinion) with a pointless baffle system and the equally pointless shroud which alone is not quiet enough to use without moderator. Then when attaching the moderator this is attached to the shroud and not the barrel. The side lever is however a dream to use!

What would you choose and why?