venom 77k or not

[badgerginger]

https://imgur.com/nVIVbQfhttps://imgur.com/IINmqBahttps://imgur.com/gjIa2ut Hopefully the pics work in the links! Question - how can you tell if its a real venom or not? with stickers available now, without stripping a gun down to look inside what should one look out for externally? The metalwork on this example is a very high standard black finish not blued,it has a silencer and underlever extension, no sign of open sights being fitted, how does the standard rearsight fit to the 77k dovetail or separate mounting point. It has a venom sticker on the chamber and the gun is in virtually mint condition, very little use, previous owner had it stored apparently. Also the stock is as new, looks similar to a cs700 thumbhole sporter with a rosewood cap and stippling not checkering. I would welcome your thoughts and views as to what model it is, older or newer or fake, thanks.

[Murphy]

Unless he has the original paperwork you pay your money and takes your chance.

[charub]

https://imgur.com/nVIVbQfhttps://imgur.com/IINmqBahttps://imgur.com/gjIa2ut Hopefully the pics work in the links! Question - how can you tell if its a real venom or not? with stickers available now, without stripping a gun down to look inside what should one look out for externally? The metalwork on this example is a very high standard black finish not blued,it has a silencer and underlever extension, no sign of open sights being fitted, how does the standard rearsight fit to the 77k dovetail or separate mounting point. It has a venom sticker on the chamber and the gun is in virtually mint condition, very little use, previous owner had it stored apparently. Also the stock is as new, looks similar to a cs700 thumbhole sporter with a rosewood cap and stippling not checkering. I would welcome your thoughts and views as to what model it is, older or newer or fake, thanks.

Just strip it down - takes no time.
That still doesn't guarantee its venom - could be a later glided v-Mach with a venom sticker.

[badgerginger]

thanks for the advice but what would I be looking for exactly as there are so many aftermarket kits available at present, were the lazerglides recorded by serial number as opposed to the v machs which can be fitted in kit form, thanks

[Murphy]

If its glided then Venom internals had buttons IIRC and Vmach internals have rings.

[badgerginger]

thanks that's the info I need atb tim

[Robet]

Do you know the age of it? That'll give you an idea if it's venom or vmach.
From what I can see it's not a mk1 or 2 as the breech is the wider type of the later versions.
Also I don't think it's a lazaglide as the cylinder is not blued.
I could be wrong as I'm only comparing it to mine.
Rob