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    Pistol choices.. S&W 586, HW45 or SMK PP700W

    Having shot air pistols for fun since 1992 I have set myself up a target holder in the garage for short sessions of target practice. The distance is just under 6 yards. I have 10 yards in the garden if required.

    I have owned a Gamo PR45, Walther CP88, BSA Magnum 240 and HW45 with Hogue grips. I found the CP88 accurate on 45mm discs and the HW45 was pretty good too. The PR45 was used at a club where my max score was 45/50 at 10 metres.

    I now have a 3-barrel set S&W 586 - with the 4", 6" and 8" barrels. I like this but it is not as accurate as I would like it to be, I have had it a long time, and am a bit bored of it. I have kept it a little longer than intended as my kids have enjoyed using it but they've gone onto other things now.

    I have the chance to buy my Dad's sleeper HW45 which he bought new in about 1998. It's in as-new condition. I would want to sell the S&W set if I took to the HW45.

    I could sell the S&W and buy a SMK PP700W instead.

    I like the idea of PCP, as I already have a bottle. I like the idea of a little more power too. I like the idea of not having to use CO2 capsules and not having the power curve to deal with.

    Having owned an HW45 in the past I know they are good pistols which take a bit of getting to know. Somewhat more challenging to shoot well than the PP700W perhaps ?

    Current plan is to have a go of the HW45 for a bit, see if I get on with it, if not, sell it on behalf of my Dad, and sell the S&W with a view to getting the PP700W.

    Budget is thus about £150 which I think is what the S&W set would achieve.

    So from all the above I think my priorities are accuracy, with clout coming second (probably ruling out the HW40).

    Any thoughts ?

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    Of those, if you do fancy getting away from Co2, and as you've already owned an HW45, I'd go for the new metaphoric lollipop flavour, and go for the PP700W, or an aligned PCP pistol, as variety is the spice of (shooting) life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth W-B View Post
    Of those, if you do fancy getting away from Co2, and as you've already owned an HW45, I'd go for the new metaphoric lollipop flavour, and go for the PP700W, or an aligned PCP pistol, as variety is the spice of (shooting) life.
    Thanks for your thoughts Gareth. I was sort of thinking that if I just went for the HW45 whilst I'd enjoy the challenge of getting accurate with it, I'd wonder what the PCP felt like.. I don't suppose they come up used very often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arjimlad View Post

    Thanks for your thoughts Gareth. I was sort of thinking that if I just went for the HW45 whilst I'd enjoy the challenge of getting accurate with it, I'd wonder what the PCP felt like.. I don't suppose they come up used very often.
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    £125to £150 is what a S&W bring on the private market with a single 6" or 4"barrel. The 8" barrel is quite rare. I would have thought the set should bring at least £200 and maybe a little more.

    The PPW700 is very different to a springier so I would get one. I have seen several second hand on the BBS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjacobs571 View Post
    £125to £150 is what a S&W bring on the private market with a single 6" or 4"barrel. The 8" barrel is quite rare. I would have thought the set should bring at least £200 and maybe a little more.

    The PPW700 is very different to a springier so I would get one. I have seen several second hand on the BBS.
    Thank you for your thoughts on this. If that set might fetch £200 then I will be a happy bunny !

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    Moletrapper is selling a pp700 at the springer bash this weekend, check the boinger bash sales thread for details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinbum View Post
    Moletrapper is selling a pp700 at the springer bash this weekend, check the boinger bash sales thread for details.
    Thanks for letting me know.. have replied on the thread.

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    Hi,
    I have both. The HW45 a recent acquisition. They are both great and very different which is why I would advise you to get both. In your position I would get the HW45 first, where else would yo get a sleeper with such family/sentimental connection? Then save up for the Pp700 which seem to be available New for £150 some places. You will need to budget for a pistol scope or red dot.
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