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    Quote Originally Posted by Barryg View Post

    Just found the bore/stroke it's 27 mm bore and 100 mm stroke that's 57.2 cm about the same as the 80 and even the Diana 350 with 70.8 cm would really struggle to get 27 ft/ lb, and the patriot is 84.5 cm
    Hi Barry, thanks for finding those stats, as supports my calculated best guess as to the Tommy's performance @ 27ft.lb based on my 'real time' experiences of owning and shooting an array of F.A.C. rated recoiling break-barrel air rifles: appreciated.
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    Good enough for me

    Hi all,
    The Patriot has been called a bucket of spanners and worse but if you care to persevere and ACCEPT that with power comes some recoil it will shoot. If I can figure out to post a image (just signed up with Postimage).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjinoz View Post

    Hi all,
    The Patriot has been called a bucket of spanners and worse but if you care to persevere and ACCEPT that with power comes some recoil it will shoot. If I can figure out to post a image (just signed up with Postimage).

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    That's why I have defended The Patriot throughout this thread -- although as a seasoned F.A.C. Recoiling air rifle shooter, do please heed my words well when I say Patriots sing best from the perspective of handling, accuracy, and consistency, set around the 22ft.lb mark (and yes, I have tried a Pat above 28ft.lb and it was/they are horrible at that). Atb: G.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth W-B View Post
    That's why I have defended The Patriot throughout this thread -- although as a seasoned F.A.C. Recoiling air rifle shooter, do please heed my words well when I say Patriots sing best from the perspective of handling, accuracy, and consistency, set around the 22ft.lb mark (and yes, I have tried a Pat above 28ft.lb and it was/they are horrible at that). Atb: G.
    How about this for the best webley, it might be the 37 ft/lbs one that was on video a few years ago.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Barryg View Post

    How about this for the best webley, it might be the 37 ft/lbs one that was on video a few years ago.
    Hi Barry, think the 'Best Webley' question that kick-started this thread was with regard to factory spec production run models fresh from the box, only, so modded Patriots like the one you have kindly pictured, can't unfortunately, count (as pointed out by our I. J. a dozen or so posts ago, when I mooted including one that I once owned).

    Two things regarding the modded Patriot you have shown pictures of above, however (a), what a good looking gun -- simply love the simplicity of the after market stock and bull-barrel (very AirArms break-barrel in look), but (b), looks to one side, as based on experience, the power level you detail leaves me cold.

    For personally, I find break-barrel recoiling air rifles vile to shoot above, lets say (and let's also be generous, here) 25ft.lb, so I can not imagine ANY recoiling air rifle being anything other than horrible and pointless at 37ft.lb.

    Further, even my beloved old F.A.C. Theoben Rapid .22 struggled with pellet skirts turning (which directly effects accuracy) above 34ft.lb, and ad into that mix an extra 3ft.lb of power plus the recoil of such a recoiling rifle (which at that level would be horrendous), and you end up with something so unfit for purpose that you'd do better chasing your quarry with it raised above your head as a club, rather than trying o shoot anything with it that was more than ten yards beyond the end of the barrel (lol).

    Do note though, that all the above comments are my personal thoughts and observations only, and not die-cast facts.

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    Update on my previous comment; bought an Omega today for the princely sum of £90. Tried it a few times and feels pretty sweet, can't wait to give it a proper going over.

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    lt's the service for me with all three cals ,177, .22, .25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartcliffer View Post
    Update on my previous comment; bought an Omega today for the princely sum of £90. Tried it a few times and feels pretty sweet, can't wait to give it a proper going over.
    I was always a BSA fan (and still am to an extent up the mid/late 90s - Mercurys especially) but the more I see pictures and articles about them the Webley Omega keeps giving me a flash of its knickers and a wink of the eye. Definitely something quite nice about it.

    Good look with the refurb.

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